Got my SR20DET version 2.0 (pics)

HybridAndy · Oct 20th, 2004, 07:05 PM

Got my second SR20 today (I've got 2 other threads somewhere with all the details, short version, got a clip, had 154k km ~ 96k miles, pulled that motor, sent it back, just got my replacement) and I've got the pics up if anybody wants to see them.

http://divizion.com/240/replacement/

Here's what I got.

It's a lot cleaner than the last engine (it had a pretty good front oil leak). I still don't however have an ECU, they're supposed to ship me one from FL tomorrow. Both engines I recieved were supposed to be blacktops, but they've both been redtops. You can see in the pictures that some of the wiring from under the coil pack cover has been torn apart but I should be able to fix that without too much trouble. The EGR valve is also damaged but I don't have emissions testing here, so I can live without it. The crank angle sensor is also damanged but not destroyed so it should still function properly. There is also some issue with the fuel line (the hardline coming through the intake manifold just goes through a soft line, and then into a cliped off piece of tubing. The line coming off the fuel rail that it shoudl attach to just runs up into the valve cover? I'm assuming the fuel rail was replaced or something? You can still see a fuel filter hanging off the feed line but it doesn't go to the fuel rail anymore, just ends. I should be able to get that valve cover and breather tube out of the way and fix it but that's just strange. Ignore the last 2, I though the mount was damaged but whatever that blob is, it chissled right off with a knife so that should be okay.

It's not in great shape but it looks a lot better than the one I had before. I'm supposed to get some nice weather this weekend so hopefully I can start getting to work on preping the engine and maybe even start tearing my 240 apart to start the swap. I do have a couple of questions though.

Where I can get a replacement or upgraded gasket set for the exhaust stuff. I'm installing a Greddy EGT, oil pressure and boost gauges so I need to pull the manifold off to drill and tap the hole for the sensor. Also, I've been reading that the factory oil pressure sensor is just for the dummy light on the dash. I was planning to T off that sensor for my Greddy gauge but if that's true, I just might drop the factory sensor altogether. I was wondering if anybody has installed one and knows. I've got my ACT 6 puck and my exedy flywheel the other day but I'm still waiting on the radiator (Koyo's backordered) and my downpipe. Hopefully I'll have them soon but I do have the factory SR radiator if I have to use it for now. Hopefully I can get that swap finished and running before winter really sets in (the last few projects I've done have been around Christmas time and I've out in the garage in all the old sweatshirts I own freezing my ass of while I work). I've also gotta figure out what the hell's wrong with my brakes on the car too. Something is leaking brake fluid and it's not coming from a softline by any of the wheels so that's not good. All 4 jackstands and my good jack are over the shop under my clip so I can't even work on it (I can't even change the oil in my other car). Damn project cars, oh well.

azRPS13 · Oct 20th, 2004, 07:11 PM

Sweet man! Is it Windows XP compatible? Nice lookin engine!

HybridAndy · Oct 20th, 2004, 08:25 PM

Thanks man. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get some more pics and maybe start tearing into it. Hopefully have some more info the rest of the parts too.

I'm considering trying a different radiator company as well. The Koyo's have been backordered for at least a month now, I have one on order but it's not absolutely cast in stone that I'll have one soon (they're supposed to be available by the end of oct.). The guy I'm getting my parts from said Fluidyne is making an S13/SR20 setup but extremely expensive and another company called PWR also makes an S13/SR20 rad too for a more reasonable price (he's giving me good prices so I don't know if I should post them or not). I think I may try going with the PWR setup but i'm not sure yet.

Nismo1997 · Oct 20th, 2004, 08:42 PM

very nice looking foward to coming back to check it out

HybridAndy · Oct 22nd, 2004, 12:24 AM

Eh, didn't get anything done today, too busy working. Tomorrow I've got class all day but hopefully this weekend I can get cracking. Hopefully we get some nice weather and I can at least get the motor fixed up and ready to go in. I gotta pull the tranny off and install the Exedy flywheel and ACT clutch (6 puck with an extreme PP, I think I might have gone a little overboard). I gotta pull the turbo manifold off and drill and tap for the EGT and install the oil pressure gauge (I'm still curious if anybody knows if the stock oil pressure gauge is for anything but the dummy light). I'd like to get it cleaned up and fix all the wiring and get everything I need stripped out of the clip and ready to go on my car. I probably won't get a chance to get started on my 240 till next week but hopefully I can get everything ready for then.

HybridAndy · Oct 23rd, 2004, 08:09 PM

Put a couple of new pics up, not much.

http://divizion.com/240/replacement/index.html

There's a pic about 2/3 down that's through the throttle body and you can see some sort of orange fluid laying in the bottom of the intake manifold. I can't tell what it is but smells vaugly like a cleaner? Anybody have any ideas? I also pulled the coil pack harness and it looks like 2 wires were torn apart and 2 others have had the outer covers damanged enough they'll need replaced. Have to break out the soldering gun tomorrow.

Oh yeah, the EGR pipe coming out of the turbo elbow, I'm assuming that fitting is 24mm (the biggest openend I have is a 22mm). Does anybody know if there's a bolt or a plug I can buy to fill that (I've been told I can't use the EGR pipe anyway, it will interfere with the steering shaft, I don't have emissions here). Hopefully get some more done tomorrow.

SlamminSam · Oct 27th, 2004, 06:44 AM

nice work!

did you get the engine from japan? do have any history of what previous applications it was used for?

Joel · Oct 27th, 2004, 09:41 PM

There are a few other Nissan models you can take the radiator from. For example the radiator from an Aus spec R30 and R31 skyline fits in the s13 with small mods and the radiator is huge compared to the crap s13 one. Have a look at some others in wreckers from some of the larger Nissan cars. Maybe some of the ones with the VG30 in them? Koyo is not the be all and end all of radiators. Shop around.

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Originally Posted by HybridAndy

Thanks man. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get some more pics and maybe start tearing into it. Hopefully have some more info the rest of the parts too.

I'm considering trying a different radiator company as well. The Koyo's have been backordered for at least a month now, I have one on order but it's not absolutely cast in stone that I'll have one soon (they're supposed to be available by the end of oct.). The guy I'm getting my parts from said Fluidyne is making an S13/SR20 setup but extremely expensive and another company called PWR also makes an S13/SR20 rad too for a more reasonable price (he's giving me good prices so I don't know if I should post them or not). I think I may try going with the PWR setup but i'm not sure yet.

HybridAndy · Oct 27th, 2004, 10:35 PM

The engine is most likely from Japan. I would assume it's from a 180SX or Silvia over there. Unfortunately, all I have is the motor set so I have no idea what condition the car is in or the milage. I orignally bought a complete front clip and the one I recieved had 156k km (approx 96k miles) and a massive front oil leak so I had to pull the motor out and ship it back and they sent me this one as a replacement. This one is much cleaner and has no leaks but I don't know the milage.

I actually went ahead and ordered the PWR radiator. I wasn't sure because I haven't had any dealings with the company but my friend who's getting me the parts swears the company makes good products and stand behind their work. I also noticed in the lastest Sport Compact Car that about half the cars competeting in this years ultimate street car challange are using PWR radiators so I ordered myself one (I should probably wait till next month to see if any of them survive, but eh). I still need to order a set of electric fans at some point though. I've basically been putting it off till I get the radiator here so I can take some measurements and buy the best one that will fit. I could just meassure the SR20/S13 one I have but I figured I might as well wait another couple of days.

I got some new parts in today. I got the fuel pump kit (I ordered a pump and just got a pump, no socks, wiring harness or anything), my ECU from FL (why is there a recessed knob I can turn on it? I've never looked at a Nissan ECU before) and I got my radio back from Sony (it was skipping playing MP3 CD's and the screen died). Today was a nice day and I should have headed over to work on the car but I just can't motivate myself. I'm going to try to get something done tomorrow.

I've got it on pretty good authority that the factory oil pressure sensor is just for the dash dummy light so I'm going to replace it with the Greddy sending unit rather than installing a T and running both. I've also gotta remove the turbo manifold so I can drill and tap the exhaust manifold for the EGT sensor. Is it possible to get to the lower 2 bolts or am I going to be cussing like a sailor working on this? I gotta look at the motor again but it doesn't look like it's going to be that easy.

2Fass240us · Nov 1st, 2004, 12:05 PM

Andy, dude. You got one bunk motor traded for another? And both were supposed to be blacktops? Who did you buy it from? They should replace the CAS, coil pack harness, and anything else that's damaged. Anything short of that should necessitate strong words and some Internet flammage. Take it from me, mang...don't take any chit from an importer. I don't know how your experience has been thus far, but there are several out there just waiting to screw people like you and me.

I think you made a good decision on the PWR radiator. Personally I think the Koyo is good, but I would trust the PWR more. Plus, you have stateside support, which is a plus.

Good luck...shoot me a PM sometime.

-Andy

HybridAndy · Nov 3rd, 2004, 10:28 PM

Damn dude, I thought you fell off the face of the earth. Yeah, this motors not too bad but has a few little head scratching things but hopefully it will work out. It's relatively clean and seesm to be in good shape. I'm still working on getting it prepped, I got all the belts off and have replacements. I also removed all the A/C stuff and the heatshields from the turbo. I still need to cut the AIV line and remove the fitting to plug it, remove the turbo manifold and pull the tranny to replace the clutch and flywheel.

I got the PWR and my DP the other day and they both look good. I didn't get a chance to pull the rad out of the box (it's packed in there pretty good and I'd perfer the protection while it's inside with my animals) but the welds look nice.

A couple of quick questions though. What is the recommend fluid for filling an SR20 tranny? Are synthetics safe to use (some Honda trannies will wear out the snycro's with synthetic fluids). I looked in the S14 S20 FSM I have but I wasn't real sure. Looks like changing that fluid will be a whole hell of a lot easier with the tranny out.

2Fass240us · Nov 4th, 2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HybridAndy

Damn dude, I thought you fell off the face of the earth.

Hehe...not completely off. I just haven't visited here in a while. I spend most of my time on FreshAlloy and CarolinaNissans these days. If you get the chance, check out my 240 articles. Parts 9 & 10 are not linked on the site, but you can get to them by following these links. Let me know what you think. I am going to do a bunch of wiring and engine assembly this weekend, and hope to have some more content up by the end of next week.

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Originally Posted by HybridAndy

What is the recommend fluid for filling an SR20 tranny? Are synthetics safe to use (some Honda trannies will wear out the snycro's with synthetic fluids). I looked in the S14 S20 FSM I have but I wasn't real sure. Looks like changing that fluid will be a whole hell of a lot easier with the tranny out.

Yes it will be easier with it out. But it's not that hard if the car's on a lift, either. I have seen GM or Pennzoil Syncromesh recommended by a respected FA member, but I have always had really good luck with Redline tranny fluid in my ITR and M3.

HybridAndy · Nov 5th, 2004, 05:17 PM

I registered over at freshalloy and have been reading the forums and searching through their archives but I havne't yet posted yet. I've read up to part 12 on your site about your build up but you haven't updated for a while.

Is there a particular weight or viscosity I should be looking for to use in the tranny. Hopefully this weekend I can get the exhaust manifold off and install the EGT sensor (I'm still not sure if the sensor is NPT or BSPT yet, but most people have have said NPT so I'm going to try that, the greddy paperwork just says 1/8" PT). I also still need to pull the tranny off and put the new belts on and I should be ready to bring it back to my house and start cleaning it and getting my actual car torn down and ready to work on. Hopefully in the next week or so I might actually get it running again.

HybridAndy · Nov 7th, 2004, 08:32 PM

Got a bunch of stuff done today.

Pulled the ehxuast manifold off so I can drill and tap the hole for my Greddy EGT gauge and I also got the tranny pulled off so I can swap in the new clutch and flywheel. I wanted to get more done tonight but I also had to fix the squeeling belt on my Honda because it was driving me nuts. I also changed the Honda's oil and got a few other things done (I've been unable to work on that car because all 4 of my jackstands are under the clip). I also got a chance to check the tire tread on my coupe and the rears are all the way down to the cords. Looks like I'm going to have to swtich back to my snow tires early this year.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll get some time to work and I can get the clutch changed and start on that manifold. I've read before that if your having oil pressure problems, you can prime the oil pump by pouring oil down the turbo return line. Would it be beneficial to just do that anyway, since I have the turbo off anyway. I also need to find somewhere to buy a new exhaust manifold gaskets. I've seen a few online that sell a multilayer metal gasket, I'll have to order one. I also need to order one of the Nissan AIV plugs. More money I've gotta spend, oh well.

MrMikeAndino · Dec 17th, 2004, 06:30 PM

This is one sweet engine. I like to see smart people that go for the 240's. Looking forward to seeing the finished project.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HybridAndy

Got my second SR20 today (I've got 2 other threads somewhere with all the details, short version, got a clip, had 154k km ~ 96k miles, pulled that motor, sent it back, just got my replacement) and I've got the pics up if anybody wants to see them.

http://divizion.com/240/replacement/

Here's what I got.

It's a lot cleaner than the last engine (it had a pretty good front oil leak). I still don't however have an ECU, they're supposed to ship me one from FL tomorrow. Both engines I recieved were supposed to be blacktops, but they've both been redtops. You can see in the pictures that some of the wiring from under the coil pack cover has been torn apart but I should be able to fix that without too much trouble. The EGR valve is also damaged but I don't have emissions testing here, so I can live without it. The crank angle sensor is also damanged but not destroyed so it should still function properly. There is also some issue with the fuel line (the hardline coming through the intake manifold just goes through a soft line, and then into a cliped off piece of tubing. The line coming off the fuel rail that it shoudl attach to just runs up into the valve cover? I'm assuming the fuel rail was replaced or something? You can still see a fuel filter hanging off the feed line but it doesn't go to the fuel rail anymore, just ends. I should be able to get that valve cover and breather tube out of the way and fix it but that's just strange. Ignore the last 2, I though the mount was damaged but whatever that blob is, it chissled right off with a knife so that should be okay.

It's not in great shape but it looks a lot better than the one I had before. I'm supposed to get some nice weather this weekend so hopefully I can start getting to work on preping the engine and maybe even start tearing my 240 apart to start the swap. I do have a couple of questions though.

Where I can get a replacement or upgraded gasket set for the exhaust stuff. I'm installing a Greddy EGT, oil pressure and boost gauges so I need to pull the manifold off to drill and tap the hole for the sensor. Also, I've been reading that the factory oil pressure sensor is just for the dummy light on the dash. I was planning to T off that sensor for my Greddy gauge but if that's true, I just might drop the factory sensor altogether. I was wondering if anybody has installed one and knows. I've got my ACT 6 puck and my exedy flywheel the other day but I'm still waiting on the radiator (Koyo's backordered) and my downpipe. Hopefully I'll have them soon but I do have the factory SR radiator if I have to use it for now. Hopefully I can get that swap finished and running before winter really sets in (the last few projects I've done have been around Christmas time and I've out in the garage in all the old sweatshirts I own freezing my ass of while I work). I've also gotta figure out what the hell's wrong with my brakes on the car too. Something is leaking brake fluid and it's not coming from a softline by any of the wheels so that's not good. All 4 jackstands and my good jack are over the shop under my clip so I can't even work on it (I can't even change the oil in my other car). Damn project cars, oh well.