ummm the rb26 most certainly does not have worse emissions than the ka24de from the 240sx, because it is so much newer and japan has smog codes also!! if motorex imported a silvia and legalized it, then possibly all the guys here with sr20det 240's could be smog legal, because then the motor would be sold in a car in the us! which is what makes it legal to swap it into your car!
so man, the original point brought up is a GREAT point and i think it sounds right that rb20det's should be legal swaps!
btw, jdm honda swaps are legal because the motor's are identical to motor's sold in honda's here in the us- certain motors like the zc dohc motor from early ef civic's arent legal because there was no us version of that motor!
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Like I said earlier read the law that I posted. And as for a small block V8 having the same emissions as a 1.8L 4 cylinder that is laughable! How can you make sure that everything visually works when: 1)some stuff only works at certain times i.e. CTS, EGR,PCV 2) it would take an inspector hours to make sure everything worked and was in specifications ?It must appear to be in working order to the inspector because legally the only thing I can take off and inspect are the tires to check brakes ONLY when I hear a metal to metal grinding in the brake system. And thats a LAW and A FACT , I'll have to look for the law throughout my book but I will post it when I find it!And I don't know where you live but round here you can go get inspected anytime!
the actual inspection/referee/swap legalization process takes hours and i live in CA.
sagymo, just because an engine is newer doesn't mean much of anything. yes, japan has emissions as well, rather strict ones, might i add. but our emission standards do not compare to theirs, neighter do the engines, positioning of the engines, among millions of other things.
like I said earlier there are PLENTY of cars in NC with engines other than their original. As a matter of fact we had a chrysler van come in with a mitsubishi engine in it and it had a legal inspection sticker and I know that middle aged lady didn't get her car "legally swapped" so tell me how she got the sticker? An who really cares about the legality of something as long as you can still get your car legalized. Oh and another thing if it is so illegal to swap engines on your own then what is the penalty for doing so? Is it civil or criminal (because your swapping it yourself)offense ? And if it is criminal then is it a misdemeanor or a felony and why?I would love for you to prove me wrong before I commit a crime!Come on ESPIY you have to have laws to back your remarks up!
Originally posted by sentra fanatic like I said earlier there are PLENTY of cars in NC with engines other than their original.
and like I said earlier, i live in CA. or maybe you just don't like to pay attention to obvious facts.
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An who really cares about the legality of something as long as you can still get your car legalized.
wtf kind of sense does that make? right. none. because OBVIOSULY no one would care about legalities if it can be legalized. i'm sure a lot of marijuana addicts wouldn't care if they could go into a store and legalize their use of marijuana.
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Oh and another thing if it is so illegal to swap engines on your own then what is the penalty for doing so? Is it civil or criminal (because your swapping it yourself)offense ? And if it is criminal then is it a misdemeanor or a felony and why?I would love for you to prove me wrong before I commit a crime!Come on ESPIY you have to have laws to back your remarks up!
as for what kind of offense, it would more than likely be classified as a civil offense. why not a criminal offense? well, you're not stealing anything because you bought it, you bought it legally, and you're just installing it into your car. the court of law cannot prove the intentions or your prior knowledge to the legalities of swapping in another engine or ANY modification, for that matter.
as for what type of offense, it fall under a misdemeanor since it can be easily rememedied. how so? the proper authorities can either have you pay tons of money to have it legalized (when you could have done it yourself with an inspector for a lot cheaper), they can impound the car, they can impound the engine, or make you "fix it" like many of the fix it tickets that are given out to car enthusiasts. and remember, what may be legal in NC is more than likely not in CA, i guess you failed to see that when i kept making reference to where i live. also, you may want to remember that each state has different laws & regulations on a number of things on top of Federal laws.
are you trying to prove me wrong here or something? because it's not working. i guess you didn't know that i plan to minor and get a degree in Law after i get my baccalaureate in both Nursing and Psychology.
I'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means, I was and still am trying to get the facts on this subject as everyone else is. While it is true that state laws vary greatly where you live it seems to me that there would be federal laws that preceed any state law. From what I read on that site Cali is infinging on yaws rights forcing a practice that even my state doesn't do and our new OBD II laws are tough to pass! As for "legalizing" your car I was refering your car already being "legal" and putting an "illegal" engine swap into it. Also I am onw curious as to how the state of California can trust its precious sunlight to a bunch of retarded,being lazy and half assed community college students(atleast in my experiences) to referee a car accuratly? And BTW I enjoy arguing with YA' espiy!
don't be so quick to judge JC students. i, in fact, happen to be attending a JC solely for budget/financial reasons. but my JC (and others in my area) are good places for a student to seg way into a State or UC college.
i understand having a legal car and putting an illegal engine in it. that's what i was arguing because if the CA 30yr smog exempt rolling plan is taken out of effect, then that's what i will have to do to keep the LT1 (Chevy V8) that i plan to swap into my '76 280Z, to keep it legal. unless i find another shady smog tech to pass me for a couple extra bills, like i had to do previously with my 240SX.
last i checked, there weren't any JC students or what have you that were doing either smog tests or inspections, not in my area, anyways. if they were on the young side, they had their mechanic's certificates, licensures, etc. or had A LOT of years under their belt. anyways, the majority of these mechanics are lazy, anyways, right?
i enjoy debating with you too, sentra, it's nice to know there are members on here that aren't constantly asking how much hp an SR20DET has, or what an S13 is or whatever the fuck. BTW, it's esyip, not espiy.
Sorry for the misspelling I guess my JC education hasn't helped me in spelling too much! And if CA is anything like NC then they will move over to the ODBD II or have they already? The new emissions plan here now is to have all counties of NC in OBD II emissions on July 1, 2006 and after that date ANY CAR in NC older than a 96' won't have an emissions test done just a safety inspection every year. So in three years black smoke out of my tail pipe here I come! Oh and since you live in CA you shouldn't have a problem finding a crooked techincian at all!
Anyone know what the dilio is with emission laws in Alberta, Canada? Everyone in this forum I think is from the States!Damn you Americans and your cheaper cars and better economy
Anyone know what the dilio is with emission laws in Alberta, Canada? Everyone in this forum I think is from the States!Damn you Americans and your cheaper cars and better economy
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