Now the engine has a FWD transmission right? Which fits a Senra/200SX.
The infiniti/240SX engine.. is that just an engine with an RWD Transmission?
I thought that RWD SR20's where vertically installed into the engine bay... with the transmission going straight back.
The FWD engine lays horizontally across the engine bay right?
So basically.... can any SR20 be FWD or RWD or AWD depending on the transmission?
But.... "UpChuck" told me this about the engines...
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I guess you know that the BB DET and GTI-R DETs wont work in a 240. You would have to get an S13 or S14 RWD DET.
So does this mean that there are different SR20 engines.. desgined for different chassis???
Please clarify .. cuz "esyip" thinks or knows that...
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there is no FWD SR20DET. better luck next time
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now know where ryan is coming from when Sentra owners try and come here and talk like they know something about RWD SRs, when they don't even know anything about THEIR OWN
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most of this wouldn't have started if only a Sentra owner, of ALL people, didn't come on here and start throwing out stupid shit saying that there are FWD SR20DETs. you'd imagine that he would know
What are the primary differences between the Avenir, BlueBird and GTiR SR20 engines... if " SR20 Engines are not FWD!" But they are AWD... but why couldnt you put it into a S13/S14/S15 with a RWD transmission? Or a Sentra with a FWD Tranny? Or hell a SSS with an AWD Transmission.
Besides ECU and mounts.... why couldnt an GTiR engine run in an S13? Cuz it does have an AWD Transmission that comes with it.. so why couldnt it be RWD?
from what i have been told the starter configuration between the two is different (fwd/awd vs. rwd). rwd is on the tranny and fwd/awd's are on the engine.(once again this is what i've been told, please correct if i am wrong).
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There is NO, and I mean NO, FWD SR20DET. Get it?
There are AWD SR20DET's which are laid "horizontally" in the engine bays. They come from the Pulsars, Bluebirds, and I think one or two other sleds. In the US, they are mated to SR20DE FWD transmissions. The US has to use FWD setups.. in 200SX's, Sentras, Altimas, etc.
Now... RWD.
The RWD SR20DE(T)'s are in Silvia's in Japan. They are RWD only. The RWD (and possibly the FWD, I'm not sure) has DFI. Direct Fire Ignition. There are NO distributors. The only SR20 that I know for sure that has a distributor is the FWD SR20DE in the US. Using a KA ECU and a JWT retune, you need to use the FWD SR20DE distributor with a RWD SR20DET. I do not recommend that.
Unless you are stupid and have a ton of money to waste, there will be no converting of AWD -> RWD or vice versa.
Ignoring the transmission differences, is the AWD SR20DET of the GTi-R capable of reliably delivering the same high power figures that the Silvia (180SX) SR20DET can? In other words, are the engines themselves identical? I've heard 450 to 500 hp reliably on the street, without ripping transmisisons or differentials apart--are these numbers accurate or overoptimistic?
Also, does anyone know how much weight the AWD system of the GTi-R adds over the 2-wheel drive models?
The RWD SR20DE(T)'s are in Silvia's in Japan. They are RWD only. The RWD (and possibly the FWD, I'm not sure) has DFI. Direct Fire Ignition. There are NO distributors
there is no distributor, per se, but there is a distributor-type apperatus that tells the DFI when to fire. thus a distributor. it does not have a "distributorless" ignition so it must have a distributor. if not for spark, for signal.
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Only SR20DE(T)! engines.. the (T) in particular are only AWD
The BB and GTiR are just SR20DE engines.. desgined for AWD are primarily used with and for FWD cars. Such as a Sentra or 200SX.
However, the BB and GTiR engines.. can not be used in a RWD situation.. such as a 240SX. Only FWD and AWD cars ????
SR20Di
SR20DE High Port (91-93 USA, 91-95 elsewhere) non-roller
SR20DE Low Port (93.5-95 USA) non-roller
SR20DE Low Port roller
SR20DET awd
SR20DET awd from GTiR
SR20DE rwd
SR20DE rwd VVT
SR20DET rwd
SR20DET rwd VVT
(above 2 came in various configs but main diff was VVT on some)
SR20DETT - never heard of it
SR20VE
SR20DEH - Primera P11
SR20VET
Only SR20DE(T)! engines.. the (T) in particular are only AWD
The BB and GTiR are just SR20DE engines.. desgined for AWD are primarily used with and for FWD cars. Such as a Sentra or 200SX.
However, the BB and GTiR engines.. can not be used in a RWD situation.. such as a 240SX. Only FWD and AWD cars ????
other than differences like injectors and compression ratio between DE and DET engines.
you are correct sir.
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Originally posted by cranium other than differences like injectors and compression ratio between DE and DET engines.
you are correct sir.
incorrect.
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Here are the differences between the DET and the DE:
The DET has oil squirter piston coolers
The DET has a bigger oil pump.
The DET has a different front pulley.
The DET has lower compression pistons (8.3:1 vs 9.5:1).
The DET has bigger injectors.
The DET has direct ignition.
The DET has a variable intake cam, runs retarded at idle, advanced mid range and retarded top end.
The DET has mechanical shim in bucket type lifters with a slightly bigger in duration exhaust cam.
The GTi-R DET has individual Throttle body injection.
The GTi-R DET has stronger main cap bolts.
The GTi-R DET has beefier rods.
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