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SR-Series Engines (DE/VE) Engine Discussion: G20, 91-94 Sentra SE-R, NX2K, 95-98 200SX SE-R, 98-01 Sentra SE

       
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Old Jan 16th, 2003, 10:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question SR20DE ... FWD/RWD or AWD .. clarify please

Now I do not entirely know anything about SR20DE's.
I have only learned from websites.. where they sell FWD and then RWD engines.

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Now the engine has a FWD transmission right? Which fits a Senra/200SX.

The infiniti/240SX engine.. is that just an engine with an RWD Transmission?


I thought that RWD SR20's where vertically installed into the engine bay... with the transmission going straight back.

The FWD engine lays horizontally across the engine bay right?



So basically.... can any SR20 be FWD or RWD or AWD depending on the transmission?

But.... "UpChuck" told me this about the engines...
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I guess you know that the BB DET and GTI-R DETs wont work in a 240. You would have to get an S13 or S14 RWD DET.
So does this mean that there are different SR20 engines.. desgined for different chassis???
Please clarify .. cuz "esyip" thinks or knows that...
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there is no FWD SR20DET. better luck next time
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now know where ryan is coming from when Sentra owners try and come here and talk like they know something about RWD SRs, when they don't even know anything about THEIR OWN
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most of this wouldn't have started if only a Sentra owner, of ALL people, didn't come on here and start throwing out stupid shit saying that there are FWD SR20DETs. you'd imagine that he would know
What are the primary differences between the Avenir, BlueBird and GTiR SR20 engines... if " SR20 Engines are not FWD!" But they are AWD... but why couldnt you put it into a S13/S14/S15 with a RWD transmission? Or a Sentra with a FWD Tranny? Or hell a SSS with an AWD Transmission.

Besides ECU and mounts.... why couldnt an GTiR engine run in an S13? Cuz it does have an AWD Transmission that comes with it.. so why couldnt it be RWD?

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Old Jan 18th, 2003, 01:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you are going to swap a DET into a Sentra/200SX, you need a BB or GTiR. Whoever said there is no FWD DET it a moron. There are quite a few people on this forum with BB DETs.

That picture with the black sentra looks like a FWD DET to me.
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Old Jan 18th, 2003, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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but whats the difference?
Esyip said there is no FWD....
UpChuck said there is no RWD BB or GTiR...

Does anyone know what the the differences between the SR20's are???
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Old Jan 19th, 2003, 01:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There is no FWD SR20DET. Only AWD SR20DET's put into FWD cars. BB and GTI-R are AWD, not RWD. The Silvia/180SX SR20DET are RWD.
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Old Jan 19th, 2003, 03:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The way I understood it, the question was asking if you can have a FWD DET. You can, but it has to be out of a BB or GTiR. As far as the differences between the two, I dont remember everything but It has been covered here before. So search for it. Or try http://new.sr20deforum.com/index.php You are going to find more information there than you can here.
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Old Jan 22nd, 2003, 05:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So basically.... can any SR20 be FWD or RWD or AWD depending on the transmission?
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does this mean that there are different SR20 engines.. desgined for different chassis???
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why couldnt an GTiR engine run in an S13? Cuz it does have an AWD Transmission that comes with it.. so why couldnt it be RWD?
Can anyone answer these questions
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Old Jan 22nd, 2003, 05:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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1) So basically.... can any SR20 be FWD or RWD or AWD depending on the transmission?
YES. SR20DE IS THE ENGINE CODE.

2) does this mean that there are different SR20 engines.. desgined for different chassis???
NOPE. BASICALLY SAME ENGINE IN DIFFERENT CHASSIS.
Click to view all SR20 engines

3) why couldnt an GTiR engine run in an S13? Cuz it does have an AWD Transmission that comes with it.. so why couldnt it be RWD?
AWD SRs CAN BE FITTED ONLY IN OUR FWD CARS NOT IN RWD LIKE THE Ss.

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Old Jan 22nd, 2003, 07:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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ok... now i somewhat understand.

Only SR20DE(T)! engines.. the (T) in particular are only AWD

The BB and GTiR are just SR20DE engines.. desgined for AWD are primarily used with and for FWD cars. Such as a Sentra or 200SX.
However, the BB and GTiR engines.. can not be used in a RWD situation.. such as a 240SX. Only FWD and AWD cars ????
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SR20Di
SR20DE High Port (91-93 USA, 91-95 elsewhere) non-roller
SR20DE Low Port (93.5-95 USA) non-roller
SR20DE Low Port roller
SR20DET awd
SR20DET awd from GTiR
SR20DE rwd
SR20DE rwd VVT
SR20DET rwd
SR20DET rwd VVT
(above 2 came in various configs but main diff was VVT on some)
SR20DETT - never heard of it
SR20VE
SR20DEH - Primera P11
SR20VET
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ok... now i somewhat understand.

Only SR20DE(T)! engines.. the (T) in particular are only AWD

T=Turbo.
The SR20DET RWD is found in the Sylvia Turbo and will fit all RWD US cousins...
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Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 04:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
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man, all the numbers and letters are confusing me. The reason that an awd sr20det will not fit into a rwd US cousin is because the transmission bolt pattern isn't set for a rear drive axle in the same place a rwd transmission is. also the housing bolt pattern will not match a rwd motor! In order to get an awd DET to fit into a rear wheel drive, you would have to do alot of cutting and welding, and in my opinion its not possible, that is unless you have massive massive massive massive massive amounts of money to spend, so if you drive a rwd nissan, go with the DET from a Silvia, and if you own a sentra ser to with the GTiR or the BB DET engine. all are made by nissan and all are "kick ass"
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T=Turbo
Please dont tell me that you thought I didn't know what the T stood for did you?
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Nope. But in only in case.


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[b]the (T) in particular are only AWD
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Old Jan 26th, 2003, 02:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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the main difference from the FWD & RWD SR20's are engine mounts and intakes, the block is cast different for each config's mounts. The internals are almost identical. The T/B's are on opposite ends between the two engines. You cannot interchange the motors from FWD to RWD. So, a GTI-R motor won't work in a Sylvia, The AWD trans is basicly a FWD trans with the output for a driveshaft to drive the rear wheels. Why someone would want to put a GTI-R engine in a S13 is beyond me, when the RWD SR20's are so much more abundant than the FWD for import in the U.S.. Don't believe me? Still think the engines are the same? Try to get RWD parts like oil pans to fit your FWD SR20. It ain't happnin.
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It's best to think of it not in terms of RWD,FWD,or AWD but rather in terms of mounting location.A FWD car is what is considered "transverse"mounting,or in domestic car speak"east-west",whereas a purely rear wheel drive car is "North-South".You can interchange engines only when they are mounted the same way in the chassis.The Bluebird(U-13?chassis) and Sunny/Pulsar(RNN-14 chassis) are both "transverse" cars,but the Sylvia/240SX/180SX are "North-South"cars.Both types of mounting have specific needs to control engine movement in the chassis,so they use different castings with different mounting bosses.
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