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Old Oct 19th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #46 (permalink)
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equal status and more exciting in your opinon. not a slam, but it's probably not exciting to watch because you don't understand it....
You just said the same thing, I believe it was Mark, said. He said for some people poker is not exciting to watch because they don't understand why it's exciting to watch. Now you're saying the same thing but for Nascar. For some, Nascar is exciting to watch and for others Poker is exciting to watch. To be honest with you though, i've watch some poker tournaments but i've never watched Nascar. To me I can see how poker can be exciting from time to time. But personally, just me, I don't see how Nascar is exciting to watch. To participate in it would be awesome, but to watch people do it I can't see the excitement.
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Old Oct 19th, 2005, 06:02 PM   #47 (permalink)
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What would you defy a sport? Nascar takes both mental and physical abilities. I read a stat some where, apparently the average driver loses over 2 quarts of sweat in a single race, not to mention the concentration it takes, the smallest mistake could kill you or another fellow driver. I'd consider nascar a sport easily, imo not poker, however I'm not goin to lie I'm not dissin on those poker players b/c I play poker often but they'd probably make me look like an idiot out there, plus it takes some balls to throw out hundreds of thousands of dollars on a single game, lol
Is pizza cooking a sport than? Its physically taxing, with all those hot ovens, I'm sure if you cooked pizzas for the same time frame nascar drivers drove cars you would lose a lot of sweat. And you have to be fast. And its mentally taxing when somebody orders more peperoni slices than you have made.
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Old Oct 19th, 2005, 06:26 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Is pizza cooking a sport than? Its physically taxing, with all those hot ovens, I'm sure if you cooked pizzas for the same time frame nascar drivers drove cars you would lose a lot of sweat. And you have to be fast. And its mentally taxing when somebody orders more peperoni slices than you have made.
Not a contest of skill and athleticism amongst 40 other pizza chefs.
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Old Oct 19th, 2005, 11:08 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Is pizza cooking a sport than? Its physically taxing, with all those hot ovens, I'm sure if you cooked pizzas for the same time frame nascar drivers drove cars you would lose a lot of sweat. And you have to be fast. And its mentally taxing when somebody orders more peperoni slices than you have made.
I usually try to hold back... But that anology is just plain stupid.
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Old Oct 19th, 2005, 11:11 PM   #50 (permalink)
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You just said the same thing, I believe it was Mark, said. He said for some people poker is not exciting to watch because they don't understand why it's exciting to watch. Now you're saying the same thing but for Nascar. For some, Nascar is exciting to watch and for others Poker is exciting to watch. To be honest with you though, i've watch some poker tournaments but i've never watched Nascar. To me I can see how poker can be exciting from time to time. But personally, just me, I don't see how Nascar is exciting to watch. To participate in it would be awesome, but to watch people do it I can't see the excitement.
okay you are right..was a bad way to put it...

If one gets excited from watching cards then okay... but I would say they are easily excitable.

When I see results from poker games in the sports section , SI, or even Sports Center then they can talk.. until then...Not a sport.
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But personally, just me, I don't see how Nascar is exciting to watch. To participate in it would be awesome, but to watch people do it I can't see the excitement.
You can't participate in Nascar... just like you couldn't participate in the NFL, MLB, NBA..etc.. So do you say the same about those Sports?... But you can drive lower level cars at similar tracks, like I said...do that once and you will have a new found respect for what those guys do...

I've played poker.. anyone can play poker... that's my whole point

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Old Oct 20th, 2005, 03:04 PM   #51 (permalink)
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okay you are right..was a bad way to put it...

If one gets excited from watching cards then okay... but I would say they are easily excitable.

When I see results from poker games in the sports section , SI, or even Sports Center then they can talk.. until then...Not a sport.
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You can't participate in Nascar... just like you couldn't participate in the NFL, MLB, NBA..etc.. So do you say the same about those Sports?... But you can drive lower level cars at similar tracks, like I said...do that once and you will have a new found respect for what those guys do...

I've played poker.. anyone can play poker... that's my whole point
Trust me I do give credit to those drivers, I just don't find Nascar exciting enough for me to watch. That's all. Difference in interest if you will.
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Old Oct 21st, 2005, 01:27 PM   #52 (permalink)
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And as far as Motorsports go, let me ask you this:

Motorsports is a contest of great physical and mental skill, but because the implement used is not a ball makes it a non-sport in your eyes?

Those drivers are more athletes than some of the fat-asses that play football and baseball, and smarter than a lot, a lot, of ballplayers.
If you read a little more carefully, I was arguing Nascar as actually being considered a sport...and I disagree that ANY driver is as athletic as some of the "fatasses" in baseball or football because I doubt a driver would be able to hit a 95mph fastball out of the park or even touch a curveball, and some of those "fatasses" that play football probably would have a better 40 time than half of the drivers, they just look slow compared to the running backs and receivers these days, plus I don't think a driver could hit a 250lb guy and tackle him...
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Old Oct 21st, 2005, 05:40 PM   #53 (permalink)
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If you read a little more carefully, I was arguing Nascar as actually being considered a sport...and I disagree that ANY driver is as athletic as some of the "fatasses" in baseball or football because I doubt a driver would be able to hit a 95mph fastball out of the park or even touch a curveball, and some of those "fatasses" that play football probably would have a better 40 time than half of the drivers, they just look slow compared to the running backs and receivers these days, plus I don't think a driver could hit a 250lb guy and tackle him...
Being a mass of lard that can block doesn't make you an athlete. And if you can hit a fastball but weight 300 lbs, that's just skill, you don't necessarily have to be athletic to do so.

Most drivers are in top physical form, they have to be to sit encased in metal in the summer in extreme heat (and wearing a full suit with nomex underneath) concentrating driving at 200 MPH.

They aren't dying of heat stroke in summer camp btw.
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Old Oct 21st, 2005, 07:32 PM   #54 (permalink)
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If you read a little more carefully, I was arguing Nascar as actually being considered a sport...and I disagree that ANY driver is as athletic as some of the "fatasses" in baseball or football because I doubt a driver would be able to hit a 95mph fastball out of the park or even touch a curveball, and some of those "fatasses" that play football probably would have a better 40 time than half of the drivers, they just look slow compared to the running backs and receivers these days, plus I don't think a driver could hit a 250lb guy and tackle him...
And no football player or Baseball player could drive a car 200 mph for 4 hours .... but I bet they could play poker...lol
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Old Oct 21st, 2005, 08:30 PM   #55 (permalink)
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And no football player or Baseball player could drive a car 200 mph for 4 hours .... but I bet they could play poker...lol
come on. they can drive a car leisurely, like they can play poker leisurely. They would never survive in WSOP just like they wouldnt in NASCAR. Skills are different than sports.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2005, 09:54 AM   #56 (permalink)
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They would never survive in WSOP
POKER IS NOT A SPORT!! All you do is sit on you're ass with your sunglass-shaded eyes staring at some idiot across from you while you lift your forearm and shoulder up to toss in your cards. Yeah, tough sport there.

Poker is a game of CHANCE, FACT. End of debate. A poker player has NO control over the cards that are dealt him. It's a game of, if anything, Numbers. Who can count and figure out his chances better. It's, if anything, a game of nerds and geeks.

Heck, look at the last two WSOP winners. THEY WERE AMATUERS!! All of those "professional" players didn't come close. And the Champ from the year before was one of the first gone. Unless you have a 300lb, 7% bodyfat, mammoth mutherfucker trying to tackle your ass while you are throwing your cards in, POKER AIN'T A FUCKING SPORT! Get it off ESPN and put in on the travel chanel or GameNetwork.

Anyway, have a nice day!
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I agree with you Timmy, find me one place that I said poker was a sport.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2005, 12:39 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I agree with you Timmy, find me one place that I said poker was a sport.
Yeah, I know...I'm givin' ya crap.
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come on. they can drive a car leisurely, like they can play poker leisurely.
exactly my point.. poker is always leisure

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They would never survive in WSOP just like they wouldnt in NASCAR. Skills are different than sports.
See Gimps post..

Race Car Driver = Athlete

Poker Player= Man/Woman at leisure, ie.. recreation

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exactly my point.. poker is always leisure



See Gimps post..

Race Car Driver = Athlete

Poker Player= Man/Woman at leisure, ie.. recreation
I agree about the poker. I never said it was a sport, nor would I ever argue it is. My arguement is that race car drivers are not athletes. which they arent.
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