im sorry i dont have a 240 or anything but u said a mustang is fast and im goin to have to disagree i cant STAND mustang and ive beaten countles numbers of them but ive never raced a porsche so im guessin there still pretty fast.
Just figured id let u know!!
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92' burgandy 2+2 300zx
-stillen hiflow air filter and housing
Faster and faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death!
My 240 is nice but.......
I want to buy one of those new Nissan 350 Z cars. So i have a 1995 manual Black 240 with a nice stereo that i would let go for
$4000.00 U.S , e-mail me at DrizztDeathblades@hotmail.com
Body is in great shape would be perfect for a SWAP project.
Originally posted by DRIFTER-J ummmmmmm 240sx will never be a good drag car but it goes really fast sidewayz
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GO B4 SHOW
YEA THATS WHY HKS HAS A 240SX DRAG CAR THAT RUNS 7 sec
hmmm i thought the HKS 7 second car was a skyline?
some people have KA24E's that can hit 9 seconds wut now for a truck SOHC motor aye!?!?!
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And the rest of you bitches who do nothing but lick each others anus's and high five your retarded flame posts can all go suck a dick, I'm done with this cracker forum.
It would seem far less logical to buy an SR20DET and then pay even more to modify it to the hilt, when the KA24DE can make significantly more power for the same price. For what it would take to buy and modify the SR, you could build the KA through the roof. The benefit of doing this is better low end torque, and greater airflow potential throughout the RPM band without having to bore the block out and doing a bunch of machine work. You could just as easily port/polish, and gasket match the intake and head for even greater flow. I would bet that you could save so much else where in the upgades that you could pay to have proffessional head work done, and upgrade to larger valves and better valvetrain components for the same or even less than the cost of the SR swap with bolt on upgrades. There are tons of cams, rods, pistons, valvetrain components, drivetrain components, ignition, turbochargers, manifolds, BOV's, wastegates, intercoolers, and whatnot that are made specifically for the 240SX/KA motor that it is rediculous. Even better, you can buy a KA for about $700, complete, and it will be newer, cleaner, and lower miles than the SR is likely to be (Not in all cases, but hunting will certainly pay off). Sorry, it just seemed to me that there was a lot of KA hating going on, and as compared to the SR, they are actually really great motors for modifying.
John
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i have a 96 S14 base model. it has the KA. i want to mod the car. i have the means to get an SR and build it up through the roof. after reading your post, i have been given pause -- should i keep the KA? could you give me your "objective" views on the pros and cons of both the SR and KA? (well, you have already given cons to the SR). what are some advantages? why do so many people seek out the SR over the KA? is it mystique? or bragging rights? i believe the KA is 100 lbs. heavier than the SR. that is one "con".
I suppose there are an endless number of pros and cons to each. Yes, there is a weight difference, but neither block is light. There is really only enough difference between the two to justify a sight handling/weight distribution preference. Beyond the blocks, most of the other major components are likely to be quite similiar in weight. I would consider that in terms of raw power, the advantage would go to weight. "The bulk takes the abuse" type thing, I suppose, but in many aspects of engineering it is terribly true. The KA may very well leave the factory with much more potential for power than the SR, but when taken to extremes all bets are off. To give you some idea, the SR's have generated enough following to have seen boundless success in terms of power, and engine refinement. Much of these products available today stem directly from that success, but for the real power makers, and proven designs, you get the one-of-a-kind price tag. With the USDM nature of the KA, you have hundreds of domestic aftermarket parts to fall back on (Nsport, FMAX, JE, Ross, Aria, Crower, Carillo, MSD, Jacob's, etc.,) plus all of the JDM parts manufacturers who support the KA (Nismo, Tomei, A'PEXi, HKS, Greddy, etc.,). With the SR, you have very limited options as far as domestic parts replacement is concerned. Typically it would seem that everyone wants the latest and greatest, and that means dropping large cash on parts that have pending release dates for the American market. It could carry over, for things like electronics, and whatnot. I just think that it is much more likely to get out of hand with the SR. I would venture a bet that no matter how much power you squeeze out of an SR, I could get the same or more out of my KA. I wanted to do an SR swap into my Frontier, but then who isn't doing swaps? I want to be just the slightest bit different. I know people are putting SR's into HB's, and RB's, and CA's, so what!?! Rolling on my factory equipped motor, with roughly equivalent engine mods, I can do just as much, and more, in many cases.
John
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you make a very compelling argument. or train of thought, rather. i think the tuning world's obsession with "JDM" heraldry is a big part of the SR craze. i mean, you have talk with others in a restaurant or in a speed shop; you say "oh, i have an SR in mine," and you get pauses and envied looks. that is a big thing, really. part of tuning is the "wow" thing. power and prestige and image go as far, perhaps farther, than practicality. i do not know enough yet technically about the SR to fully get into this topic. you have incited, perhaps, a greater urgency to seek out knowledge of the SR for me.
what i don't fully understand is if the KA is such a noteworthy competitor or alternative to the SR, perhaps matching or overwhelming it when built up, then why is the KA the first thing to be dumped overboard? i mean, it seems that nobody really wants to keep it if they have the means to get an SR. few, if any, serious drifters, for example, dump their SR for a mad dash to the KA.
i see your point fully about being slightly different. i identify with that. the thing is, everyone is doing it. so, in a way, to have the SR is not that special anymore. i have a 3rd gen maxima, for example, as well as an S14. i have considered turboing my VG just to be different, as few bother doing it. but that chassis actually can handle it and should have been turbo'd to begin with. plus the car looks great for what it is. but not many aftermarket suppliers support it. it is too odd. or not sought after enough by 'serious' tuners.