Well as you probably noticed im a newbie so here might be a couple of dumb Q's that someone has already answered but im going to ask any way. I really don't know much about drifting. I've seen it before and think it is bad ass but what are the basic mods to a stock S13.
1)I've heard about the 5 lug swap with the 300zx brakes is that an option or just go and get slotted rotors for the 240?
2)For drifting you want a 50/50 weight balance right? So technically the SR20 or the CA18 would be ideal, but what if i want it to be a drift/drag car would the rb25 be to heavy for the drift or is it a pro/con battle?
if you have any more advice on anything please enlighten
1) the 300zx brake conversion is not just about the rotors, its more about the calipers(much better than the stocks). Its not the only option, just cheaper than a brembo big brake upgrade. the 5 lug conversion will open up more wheel options!
2) In my opinion you should pick one... and yes the rb will throw off the weight balance. You should read the STICKY at the top about the RB swaps
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1) the 5lug swap and 300z brakes don't have to come together so u can do just the swap or even just the brakes on your 4lugs. they are just an option.
2)50/50 weight distribution is ideal but you don't have to have that to drift. and if u wanna drag/drift i think thats your best combination with the rb
as racin-type has mentioned, u can just do the 5lug conv and redrill ur stock rotors to go with it..many ppl, such as me, would recommend a z32 brake upgrade while ur at it.
again, 50/50 would be ideal but it doesn't have to be 50/50.. yes the rb25 weighs a little more but many ppl will argue that by moving a couple of stuff to the trunk, you could basically cancel the extra weight in the front out. if you want to drift, what you want is a lot of torque and a lot of low-mid end power.
don't forget suspension!!!! one of the most important things on a drifter.. upgraded suspension will allow you to control the car easier.. you won't be drifiting like koguchi or anything but it will help u some what
i HIGHLY recommend going to a track over the weekend. learn some basic techniques like heel-toe downshift, pulling the ebrake, popping clutch, etc etc.. also, get a good feel for ur car..they can do some weird stuff when pushed harder than usual.. this will be the best money you ever spent
in all technicality, you don't need much hp OR torque at all when trying to drift. drifting (like auto-x'ing, in this sense) relies mostly on suspension. for example, look at the weak little Corollas. they make shit for power, but can still be tossed around. not that great on stock components, but when you upgrade their suspension, they can execute amazing drifts.
and just to make a quick comment. if you're going to be focusing mainly on RWD cars. you shouldn't be pulling the e-brake at all. that'll just lock up your rear brakes/tires and can possibly make you lose even more control than in a drift. for the majority of the time, youll be controlling a RWD car only from the steering wheel, your shifting, and your pedals.
Using the Z32 rear uprights will reduce unsprung weight because they're made out of forged aluminum instead of the standard cast iron. Suspension mods are very important when drifting. They should be the first area to be looked at for someone wanting to get into drifting.
The problem with the rb is that, yes, it is heavy. Also, because it is longer, that weight is more foward. Putting more weight into the back will help even out the f/r balance, but because you've got a lot of weight on either end of the car, it becomes more difficult to rotate the vehicle. You want the weight more towards the center. Take mazda's new rx-8 for example, the heavier items on that car, like the engine and fuel tank, are closer towards the center. This makes that car easier to rotate.
Don't get me wrong, I think that the RB is a wonderful engine. But if you're going to do more drifting than dragging, the SR would probably be a better choice. Even with that engine, you can still kick ass on the 1320.
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i actually think that for drifting, the CA18DET would be the engine of choice. it's cheaper than the SR, just as easy to swap, and can rev much higher. it has slightly less power but that can be changed with the money you save on buying the clip. and to throw something else in here, the less power you have, the easier it will be to control the car.
i say swap in a CA, get some good suspension items, and knock yourself out (not literally tho)
i have also come across a killer 180sx site that has everything you could possbily imagine, including full packages that bump power to over 400rwhp. there's several different stages available, all for good prices.
i want to build and all motor SR20DE for my S13. but i heard they're about the same to import as a DET. i just like the feel of n/a engines. and ithink for drifting, an n/a would be really good cause no turbo lag to hit you when you go into a turn.
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