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Originally Posted by jeffwubze
yeh......i saw the roy dectectors...but i am wondering are they really that good as they advertised?????
my friend has a cobra he bought from bestbuy...his unit sucks and never being accurate......
please give me some opnions!
thanks
jeff
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jeffwubze: That is because he has bought a Cobra. Any low-tech, low-money unit delivers relatively BARGAIN performance for its price-point against mainly State Police radar equipment... which has gotten quietly super-scary and hi-tech, to say nothing of the Lasers they use as well.
I'm not sure what "Don't think you can fool the radars" means... Do you mean you can't fool the State Police? Call is ballsy, but if you have a clear plate over your License Plate (I don't mean the ones that blocl a number or two, that is obscuring and can get you pulled over all by itself as you are the only car with 4 numbers on a license plate or not 6, or a tinted License Plate shield so they can barely see the whole thing, an equal red flag) then you likely bought a Laser Diffuser, which is -supposed- to make it more difficult for your speed to be picked up by a laser, as it is the first place they are trained to aim and the diffuser shifts the beam, giving you about exactly 1 or 2 seconds to SLOW DOWN when you know you were doing 80-something and should have been doing no more than 75, even 70. Of course, they would then shift it up to the next shiniest, in some cases chromy surface on your vehicle - Hopefully you don't drive the new Navigator! - and try it again, with more luck... in which case you need to slow down, AND hope your unit with up to 3 behind-the-grill mounted Laser Shifters of some kind is up to it... at least one is, and another one is worthy. Read radartest.com's "Torture Test" designed to create an impossible scenario, and how well the units tested performed.
I have followed this on and off over the years, and you need to worry about "Instant-On" radar. The only thing you can really do against it is to see if your radar Detector - again, the best ones will likely alert you about 2 miles away on an open road - repeatedly is catching "blips" that go right away. Take this as a cautionary tale and slow down... you could be getting Instant-On clocked, which is supposed to be questionably legal, but there's really no way to disprove it, and when your speed shows up on radar, it's you vs a decorated State Trooper, and you were speeding (to take it to the furthest extent. Same way you can't prove they were sitting on side of road with lights off... it's simply who has a badge and who has a Corvette.)
The police always have the upper hand. No detector can save you from doing 140MPH. Even if it was to alert you, you wouldn't have time to slow down. I would imagine the old Acura NSX on the highway doing between 90 and 95MPH had one, to aid when he had to slow down, because that is a predictable road, especially when you have driven it enough to know the "spots," and you realize there could be quite a few, when they want to be on the road. However, there is nothing illegal about monitoring radar put out by the Police, although in some places these devices are prohibited, that is a good point.
As far as other things, like multiple vehicle speed monitoring, radar from moving cop car, and photo radar... Laser is when you see a cop on the side of the road, aiming a laser gun at your car. You can bet he is trained to use that piece of equipment. Just know: He has to actually CLOCK your speed to issue you a citation, after observing you speeding first. Radar is same thing, but more automatic then using laser. As Acecool said: read the detector articles, and there is much to this subject. There is, as well, no substitute for common sense, and your Red Corvette or Yellow Ferrari -will- get more tickets than a Blacl Buick LeSabre - especially if it is not speeding. (Unfortunately.)
I'm about to go check out that article... just Don't buy anything from Rocky Mountain Radar, or basically any detector under $200 they sell at the store you get cases for your Mobile Phone. (I'd say spend no less than $300 for the newest Escort. They -Claim- they use GPS to weed out false alarms, but this makes me suspicious, since it leaves a window for Police to switch up.)
Also: 1) Windshield placement MATTERS. The article has the specifics; I think the windshield wipers block detection range, to an extent.
2) "Rear Radar" and "Side Radar" seem to be Valentine One HYPE; Radartest.com insists these are marketing gimmicks masking the Valentine One core technology being from the 70s. Radartest.com also claims the State Police don;t use a lot of the features on their radar, like multi-vehicle tracking that can monitor a speeding vehicle through the blind spot of a tractor-trailer, eliminating the trick of "the Trooper can't see me;" It makes sense, but Detector technology analysis and State Police Radar methods analysis seem like 2 different things to me.
3) Photo Radar is most prevalent in Arizona, and a few other places, and thanks to one guy doing 147MPH in a Hyundai Elantra (! - Even the magazine did not know that was possible!) and getting caught on Arizona photo radar, it -may- get more popular.
Now to get my car fixed. Excellent question; excellent topics! I'm going to read some more myself.