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Old Jun 27th, 2005, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2005 Pathfinder, VDC Re-programming

According to an article on http://www.nissannews.com/ Nissan dealers will, without charge, reprogram the VDC to eliminate a "tip-up" hazard experienced in certain manoeuvers.

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Nissan Implements Product Improvement for 2005 Nissan Pathfinder [June 10, 05]

GARDENA, Calif. (June 10, 2005) – During recent NCAP dynamic maneuvering tests by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the 2005 Nissan Pathfinder experienced a “tip-up” under certain test conditions. As this result was unexpected, Nissan proactively approached NHTSA to better understand the Pathfinder’s performance in this test. Nissan determined the root cause and implemented a product improvement by reprogramming the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) system installed on all Pathfinder models at the factory. Subsequent tests by NHTSA confirmed there was no “tip-up” after the VDC was updated. In addition, to avoid any concerns by current Pathfinder owners and to promote customer satisfaction, Nissan dealers will reprogram the VDC on their vehicle free of charge. Nissan will begin sending letters notifying 2005 Pathfinder owners of this offer at the end of June 2005.
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Old Jun 27th, 2005, 04:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I posted that link a while back and got no repsponse. Surprising considering it is a free upgrade to my way of thinking.

I tried to get the dealership to reprogram the VDC when I picked up my truck last week but was told they would not get the infomration until sometime in July to do the work.

If anyone out there finds that they can get the reporgramming done please post.

If this was a perfect world I could download it myself, burn it to a cd and feed it to the radio and have the truck reprogram itself
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Old Jun 27th, 2005, 04:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I posted that link a while back and got no repsponse. Surprising considering it is a free upgrade to my way of thinking.

I tried to get the dealership to reprogram the VDC when I picked up my truck last week but was told they would not get the infomration until sometime in July to do the work.

If anyone out there finds that they can get the reporgramming done please post.

If this was a perfect world I could download it myself, burn it to a cd and feed it to the radio and have the truck reprogram itself

HA HA HA HA HA
If this was a perfect world I could download it myself, burn it to a cd and feed it to the radio and have the truck reprogram itself
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Old Jun 27th, 2005, 04:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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generic,
sorry for not going to the trouble to do a search first to see if this matter had been posted.

cwescapexlt4x4,
actually the idea of self-reprogramming embedded computers isn't so unlikely. Some digital camera manufacturers are issuing firmware updates their customers can install, but downloading from the Internet and loading into the cameras via the memory chips. Presumably something like that could be done with a pc and cable connection to the vehicle. You probably know lots of "tuners" are reprogramming their car computers. Our car has had its transmission reprogrammed, with definite improvements in operation and probably reliability.
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Old Jun 27th, 2005, 07:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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sorry for not going to the trouble to do a search first to see if this matter had been posted.
Don't be i'm glad someone else brought it up.
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Old Jun 29th, 2005, 06:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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HA HA HA HA HA
If this was a perfect world I could download it myself, burn it to a cd and feed it to the radio and have the truck reprogram itself
We do it on airplanes, the technology is there, it's just the auto industry isn't ready to let the average joe do it since they spent so much time taking the ability away from the shadetree mechanic.
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Old Jun 29th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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We do it on airplanes, the technology is there, it's just the auto industry isn't ready to let the average joe do it since they spent so much time taking the ability away from the shadetree mechanic.
Agreed, to think that an automaker will "allow" end users to do this... it may be some time before this happens...
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Old Jun 29th, 2005, 10:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Agreed, to think that an automaker will "allow" end users to do this... it may be some time before this happens...
So, they could make it wireless and reprogram your vehicle while you sleep, or even while you are on the road! One can only imagine the possibilities and side effects - lawyers will love it!

"If you, or a loved one have been a victum of GM ECM Onroad Reprogram Syndrome, you could be entitled to a large cash settlement. Don't delay, call the offices of Schmucks and Moore."
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Old Jul 3rd, 2005, 07:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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did hear any information from your dealer about this upgrade.
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Old Jul 5th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i got the notice and i'll bring my truck this saturday.
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i got the notice and i'll bring my truck this saturday.
I also received the recall Saturday.
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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 06:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I got the letter today and I will call the dealer tomorrow. Anyone knows how long will that service be?
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Old Jul 8th, 2005, 06:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I just got a notice in the mail today about it. Here is the actual text, as scanned in from the mailing:

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Dear Nissan Owner:

Nissan has decided to provide all owners of 2005 Pathfinders with a product improvement to the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) system.

REASON FOR SERVICE ACTION

During recent dynamic maneuvering tests done by the U.S. government, Nissan discovered that the VDC system could be improved to address an unexpected result caused by the severe nature of the testing. Under certain test conditions, the Pathfinder "tipped up" because the VDC did not operate as expected. The cause has been identified, and we have determined that reprogramming the VDC will improve its operation. This improvement has been included in new Pathfinders now being built and is being offered--¬to owners of recently purchased vehicles to assure your continued satisfaction.

WHAT NISSAN WILL DO

Your Nissan dealer will reprogram the VDC control unit with the improvement free of charge.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO

Contact your Nissan dealer at your earliest convenience in order to arrange an appointment to have the VDC control unit reprogrammed. It is essential that you have an appointment before bringing your vehicle to the dealer in order to ensure that the dealer will be able to take your vehicle that day. Please bring this notice with you when you keep your service appointment. Instructions have been sent to your Nissan dealer.

If the dealer fails, or is unable to complete the reprogramming free of charge, you may contact the National Consumer Affairs Office, Nissan North America, Inc. at P.O. Box 191, Gardena, California 90248-0191. The toll free number is 1-800-NISSAN1 (1-800-647-7261).

Thank you for your cooperation. We encourage you to take advantage of this offer and are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you.
This notice leaves me with a question, since it doesn't say if this only applies to early PF builds (mine's an October build) or all 2005s. I guess I would assume they'll only send mailings out to those VINs that it applies to ... but if I had a later build, I'm not so sure I'd be comfortable making that assumption.

And I see the Nissan News article posted above doesn't clarify the "cutoff-date" either.
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Old Jul 9th, 2005, 12:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I talked to the dealer yesterday and they said it will take about 2-3 hours to do the reprogramming and I will also mention the windows rattling problem, so probably my Pathy needs to stay in the shop for the whole day.

My Pathy was build in April, so I guess the cutoff day would be mid May to late May.
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Old Jul 9th, 2005, 09:02 AM   #15 (permalink)
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i woke up very early maybe around 6am and wait for an hour in line in service area i think i spend a gallon of gas just for that and then the tech told me ohh we don't have the software for this yet still waiting for the download. i hate my dealer i will not go there anymore the lady that scheduled me should know that they don't have it yet. that's why i re-schedule it in a different dealer just 5 minutes in my house. they said it's not a problem.
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