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Old Jan 12th, 2007, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WTF??

So, the other day I'm driving my 99 Pathfinder LE and I'm stopped at a set of lights when what should drive through the intersection but a newer model pathy ('05 or '06) with winter rims (the solid black ones) and snow tires on.

I laughed. Is that correct? My pathy has the stock rims and stock equivalent M+S tires on. Other than protecting your rims I can't see any reason to do this and even then I thought it was a bit stupid.

Anyone out there done this? I apologize if you find that the newer pathys have trouble in snow (I think I saw that in another thread). Seems odd to me.
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Old Jan 12th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So, the other day I'm driving my 99 Pathfinder LE and I'm stopped at a set of lights when what should drive through the intersection but a newer model pathy ('05 or '06) with winter rims (the solid black ones) and snow tires on.

I laughed. Is that correct? My pathy has the stock rims and stock equivalent M+S tires on. Other than protecting your rims I can't see any reason to do this and even then I thought it was a bit stupid.

Anyone out there done this? I apologize if you find that the newer pathys have trouble in snow (I think I saw that in another thread). Seems odd to me.
Well... the reason I DO THIS.... is because I don't want to take my car in every time I want the snow tires mounted up. I keep the second set of wheels, with snows already mounted, hanging on a tire rack in the garage. When the conditions call for it, I just do a quick tire change, right there in my garage. Only takes 15 minutes.

PS. Believe it or not, there are tires out there with MUCH better winter weather performance than the marginally-adequate OEM tires. For those of us that live in a snowy weather geo, this is a big deal.

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Old Jan 12th, 2007, 11:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I live in Toronto, we have no snow this year.

I don't dispute your methodology. It is sound and, if necessary, I say do it...if you live in the Rockies or even Barrie (snow belt zone in Ontario) but in a major city? Seems odd to me.

I don't doubt that there are better winter tires out there but are the stock ones on the newer pathys that inadequate?
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Old Jan 12th, 2007, 11:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I live in Toronto, we have no snow this year.

I don't dispute your methodology. It is sound and, if necessary, I say do it...if you live in the Rockies or even Barrie (snow belt zone in Ontario) but in a major city? Seems odd to me.

I don't doubt that there are better winter tires out there but are the stock ones on the newer pathys that inadequate?

This is just my opinion... the OEM tires on the newer Pathys are ok, but just barely. In the snow and on the ice, you really need a siped tire. Like Michelin LTX M&S, or better yet.. Bridgestone Blizzak.
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Old Jan 13th, 2007, 04:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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People do this all the time with winter tires. What's so wierd about it?
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Old Jan 14th, 2007, 04:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So, the other day I'm driving my 99 Pathfinder LE and I'm stopped at a set of lights when what should drive through the intersection but a newer model pathy ('05 or '06) with winter rims (the solid black ones) and snow tires on.

I laughed. Is that correct? My pathy has the stock rims and stock equivalent M+S tires on. Other than protecting your rims I can't see any reason to do this and even then I thought it was a bit stupid.

Anyone out there done this? I apologize if you find that the newer pathys have trouble in snow (I think I saw that in another thread). Seems odd to me.
He's from T.O. ...end of story.
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Old Jan 16th, 2007, 09:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hey now, I live in Toronto... it's nice having a good set of tires in the winter, so when one of the 57924 idiots in front of me in traffic on a snowy day suddenly stops or flies into my lane for no reason whatsoever, I have a lot better control of my truck.

Just because we're in the city doesnt mean we dont get crappy roads.
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Old Jan 16th, 2007, 10:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey now, I live in Toronto... it's nice having a good set of tires in the winter, so when one of the 57924 idiots in front of me in traffic on a snowy day suddenly stops or flies into my lane for no reason whatsoever, I have a lot better control of my truck.

Just because we're in the city doesnt mean we dont get crappy roads.
No offence to you.
With the little blast you guys got the other day I bet you're glad about having winter tires.
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Old Jan 17th, 2007, 04:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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People do this all the time with winter tires. What's so wierd about it?
It was on a Pathfinder, in my mind it is not the same as a regular passenger car. I suppose they may have had ones on that were quieter, offering a softer ride, etc.

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No offence to you.
With the little blast you guys got the other day I bet you're glad about having winter tires.
I grew up on the prairies, so it was a bit amusing. The M+S tires were fantastic, as was the shift-on-the-fly four wheel drive. You still have to drive carefully because all of that doesn't help the stopping so much.

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Hey now, I live in Toronto... it's nice having a good set of tires in the winter, so when one of the 57924 idiots in front of me in traffic on a snowy day suddenly stops or flies into my lane for no reason whatsoever, I have a lot better control of my truck.

Just because we're in the city doesnt mean we dont get crappy roads.
LOL!! I believe there are significantly more idiots on the road here than that. I count almost that many on my drive to work each day.
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Old Jan 17th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It was on a Pathfinder, in my mind it is not the same as a regular passenger car. I suppose they may have had ones on that were quieter, offering a softer ride, etc.
Er, so....how DO you view a Pathfinder? And which year, cause we all know the R50's are as close to a car as you can get.
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Old Jan 18th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Er, so....how DO you view a Pathfinder? And which year, cause we all know the R50's are as close to a car as you can get.
To me, a pathy is a vehicle that can easily go places that a regular passenger car (sedans, coupes, whatever) cannot go or cannot go without some difficulty, while offering many of the same creature comforts and overall aspects (say, erm, driveability) of a regular car. That said, they absolutely stomp on "regular" cars.

I'm not a gearhead so help me out here, R50's are a particular generation of pathfinder?

The pathy I saw was either a 2005 or 2006 model year. What I'm getting at is:do the tires they come with suck that bad that you are better off spending some extra cash on better tires?
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Old Jan 18th, 2007, 04:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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To me, a pathy is a vehicle that can easily go places that a regular passenger car (sedans, coupes, whatever) cannot go or cannot go without some difficulty, while offering many of the same creature comforts and overall aspects (say, erm, driveability) of a regular car. That said, they absolutely stomp on "regular" cars.

I'm not a gearhead so help me out here, R50's are a particular generation of pathfinder?

The pathy I saw was either a 2005 or 2006 model year. What I'm getting at is:do the tires they come with suck that bad that you are better off spending some extra cash on better tires?
With a few notable exceptions, most stock tires and shocks suck. Spend the money on quality upgrades. It will make your rig drive completly different, and you will not regret it.
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Old Jan 18th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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To me, a pathy is a vehicle that can easily go places that a regular passenger car (sedans, coupes, whatever) cannot go or cannot go without some difficulty, while offering many of the same creature comforts and overall aspects (say, erm, driveability) of a regular car. That said, they absolutely stomp on "regular" cars.

I'm not a gearhead so help me out here, R50's are a particular generation of pathfinder?

The pathy I saw was either a 2005 or 2006 model year. What I'm getting at is:do the tires they come with suck that bad that you are better off spending some extra cash on better tires?

R50 - 96-2004
You saw an R51 (05-07)

Although we do have the ability to do better in snow than a car, tires do make a world of difference. I trust my AT's way more than I would the stock tires that came on the truck in a snow storm...


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Old Jan 19th, 2007, 04:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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And to mention that true winter tires have a much softer compound and tons of siping. Night and day difference when stopping on ice.
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Old Jan 20th, 2007, 10:09 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Or maybe the guy is trying to protect his factory rims from the damaging effects of all the salt they spread on the roads in Ontario. I don't know about Toronto in particular, but being from Winnipeg, we definitely notice when vehicles from Northwestern Ontario are in town - unless it's routinely washed off, the salt definitely gathers. At least on the body and chassis, if not the wheels. Enough so that some people here are reluctant to buy used vehicles that come from the east. They may look good from the outside, but the cancer may be hiding just under the paint... I don't know if it's still an issue, but I know it used to be that way a few years ago.

I also love my All-Terrain TA's alot more than the Michelin MS the vehicle had when we bought it (used). Certainly make driving in the deep stuff a lot more fun.

Just some thoughts from "Winterpeg".
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