bought a new 2006 PF se last thursday. took it back to the dealer saturday after check engine light came on. it wouldn't go above 30mph. suppose to pick it up today. they said they can't find a problem. i am extremely frustrated with my first experience owning a nissan!!!! i will ask what the code is and post later so maybe ya'll can add your 2 cents.
That sucks, ask for a different car... as soon as they said i dont know what the problem is on your 2 day old car... say thanks ill take another...
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bought a new 2006 PF se last thursday. took it back to the dealer saturday after check engine light came on. it wouldn't go above 30mph. suppose to pick it up today. they said they can't find a problem. i am extremely frustrated with my first experience owning a nissan!!!! i will ask what the code is and post later so maybe ya'll can add your 2 cents.
I agree with KSpider, ask for a different one. There's no way I would accept that answer on a < week old car.
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this is my first Nissan as well... First non european car at that... and I have been happy with it for the 6 days I have had it : ) Let us know what happens! (where are you located?)
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Most cars dont get a CEL 2 days off the lot with no immediate codes
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Originally Posted by Animal
Most states lemon laws give the dealer 2 or 3 tries to fix the problem, then it's a new car; no arguments.
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Most cars dont get a CEL 2 days off the lot with no immediate codes
I do not believe that makes a difference, legally that is. Also, just because the dealer said they didn't find anything doesn't mean there wasn't a code. In fact, I would find it hard to believe there wasn't a code. If it were me, I'd stop by Autozone and get the codes read (not cleared) before taking it to a dealer; not that I don't trust dealers, just that... well, I guess it is that I don't trust dealers.
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I do not believe that makes a difference, legally that is. Also, just because the dealer said they didn't find anything doesn't mean there wasn't a code. In fact, I would find it hard to believe there wasn't a code. If it were me, I'd stop by Autozone and get the codes read (not cleared) before taking it to a dealer; not that I don't trust dealers, just that... well, I guess it is that I don't trust dealers.
True, true and true...
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Most (all?) states have 72 hours vehicle return policy. Talk to a manager/owner and get another one. That sounds like bad things to come from that one.
Most (all?) states have 72 hours vehicle return policy. Talk to a manager/owner and get another one. That sounds like bad things to come from that one.
Never heard of that one. Are you sure you are not thinking of credit card purchases?
P.S.: in Oregon , for example:
Q: If I don't like the car I bought this weekend, can't I just return it within three days and get my money back?
A: No! Car buyers do not have this right. Once you sign the paper work, it will be difficult or impossible to undo the deal.
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Most (all?) states have 72 hours vehicle return policy. Talk to a manager/owner and get another one. That sounds like bad things to come from that one.
No, Animal, Xeno's right. It may sound like some unwritten law or a widely-spread urban legend, but it's actually true (at least in some states). Many states DO have laws on the books protecting consumers with a short window to undo an automobile purchase. In some states, it only applies to used cars, but in some states will apply to new cars. I wish I could find which ones this applies to, but I wouldn't know where to look.
The whole purpose of the law is to give a buyer a few days (some states have a mileage limit, too) to kick the tires and make sure the dealer didn't hide something (oil leaks, etc.). Most states recognize what a major purchase an automobile is for hard-working citizens and that getting shafted by an unscrupulous car dealer can cause financial hardships in a hurry. They aren't intended to cover buyer's remorse. However, a strong legal case could be made that the vehicle was not represented accurately if mechanical problems are experienced 2 days after purchase (mind you, we still don't know what caused the CEL in the original poster's message).
When I lived in TX, I had a dealer hide something in the paperwork and I didn't catch it until the next day. I called the sales manager and angrily told him I wanted my money back. He said he couldn't do it, so I went to see a lawyer. He faxed a letter to the dealer with the law attached and said that if I wasn't given my money back by the close of business that day, he would receive a registered letter with the same notice (the first step in legal proceedings). Guess what? The sales manager called me back within an hour and offered to redo the deal to the intended terms AND he installed a few options on the vehicle at no charge.
The $250 I paid for one hour of the lawyer's time was the best money I ever spent. It saved me $1800 in interest AND I got the freebies! :-)
I read your OR example, but since the whole purpose of these type of laws is to protect the consumer, my guess is that it's likely that having mechanical problems 2 days after purchase would be seen completely differently than "I don't like the car" would.
Good luck, imacanyone. Keep us posted on how this turns out.
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No, Animal, Xeno's right. It may sound like some unwritten law or a widely-spread urban legend, but it's actually true (at least in some states). Many states DO have laws on the books protecting consumers with a short window to undo an automobile purchase. In some states, it only applies to used cars, but in some states will apply to new cars. I wish I could find which ones this applies to, but I wouldn't know where to look.
The whole purpose of the law is to give a buyer a few days (some states have a mileage limit, too) to kick the tires and make sure the dealer didn't hide something (oil leaks, etc.). Most states recognize what a major purchase an automobile is for hard-working citizens and that getting shafted by an unscrupulous car dealer can cause financial hardships in a hurry. They aren't intended to cover buyer's remorse. However, a strong legal case could be made that the vehicle was not represented accurately if mechanical problems are experienced 2 days after purchase (mind you, we still don't know what caused the CEL in the original poster's message).
When I lived in TX, I had a dealer hide something in the paperwork and I didn't catch it until the next day. I called the sales manager and angrily told him I wanted my money back. He said he couldn't do it, so I went to see a lawyer. He faxed a letter to the dealer with the law attached and said that if I wasn't given my money back by the close of business that day, he would receive a registered letter with the same notice (the first step in legal proceedings). Guess what? The sales manager called me back within an hour and offered to redo the deal to the intended terms AND he installed a few options on the vehicle at no charge.
The $250 I paid for one hour of the lawyer's time was the best money I ever spent. It saved me $1800 in interest AND I got the freebies! :-)
I read your OR example, but since the whole purpose of these type of laws is to protect the consumer, my guess is that it's likely that having mechanical problems 2 days after purchase would be seen completely differently than "I don't like the car" would.
Good luck, imacanyone. Keep us posted on how this turns out.
Yours had nothing to do with a "72 hour" law, that was lack of full disclosure or misrepresentation which could have been well over 3 days. The link I provided states that it is difficult or impossible to undo the deal and nothing like "unless the CEL is lit". I'm not saying such a law could not exist in some states, just that I have never heard of it, could not find any reference to it and find it hard to believe that a law would have such disregard for the honest merchant (hypothetically speaking, since we are talking about car dealers).
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California Law states that as soon as papers are signed there is NO obligation for a dealer to let the customer return a car. However, The dealer I purchased from has their own 24 hour or 200 mile (whichever comes first) satisfaction policy where no questions are asked if you want to return the car. The laws are state to state and dealer to dealer...
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California Law states that as soon as papers are signed there is NO obligation for a dealer to let the customer return a car. However, The dealer I purchased from has their own 24 hour or 200 mile (whichever comes first) satisfaction policy where no questions are asked if you want to return the car. The laws are state to state and dealer to dealer...
Can always do what that guy did in Irvine Ca a few years back.... he took his crane ( he owned a rigging comapany ) got a permit and hung the junk truck he bought over the dealer with a 30' banner that said "lemon dealer"....
He got nice new truck and was front page on the paper.....
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