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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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the tc's weren't built for performance.
because the spec is such a great performer
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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Scion owner's have dealership support in customizing their cars with tint, neons, accentuated cabin colors, etc.

Spec V's have better performance, all around. They were obviously not built for show like the Scion's were. Am I not right?
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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I really like the look of the specV more then the tC. I dont like the Front end of the tC at all.

Side by Side comparisions, Spec on the left, tC on the right.

Honestlly by most of it it seems like the tC is the better buy, but I wouldn't own one.


Base Retail * $18,380 $16,515
Base Invoice † $17,135 $15,715
New Car Blue Book® ‡ $17,786 $16,515

GENERAL INFO
Country of Assembly Mexico -
Country of Origin Japan Japan
EPA Class Compact Subcompact
Body Style Sedan Hatchback Coupe
Doors 4 3
Seating Capacity 5 5

POWERTRAIN
Engine Code / Name - -
VIN A -
Cylinders 4 4
Displacement 2.5 2.4
Bore x Stroke 3.50 x 3.94 3.48 x 3.78
Compression Ratio 9.5 9.6
Fuel Type G G
Fuel Induction SFI MFI
Valve Train DOHC DOHC
Valves Per Cylinder 4 4
Total Number Valves 16 16
Horsepower 175 @ 6000 RPM 159 @ 6000 RPM
Torque 180 @ 4000 RPM 162 @ 4200 RPM
Max Eng. Speed 6200 RPM -
Transmission 6 Speed Manual 5 Speed Manual
Drivetrain FWD FWD
EPA City 23 MPG 22 MPG
EPA Hwy 29 MPG 29 MPG

SAFETY
Airbag Driver
Passenger Driver
Passenger
Child Door Locks Standard Not Available
Child Seat Anchors Standard Standard
Integrated Child Seat Not Available Not Available
Alarm System Optional Optional
Engine Immobilizer Optional Not Available

CRASH TEST
Driver Front 4 of 5 stars 5 of 5 stars
Passenger Front 4 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars
Front Side 2 of 5 stars 4 of 5 stars
Rear Side No Test Planned 4 of 5 stars
Rollover Rating - No Test Planned

DIMENSIONS
Head Room: Front 39.9 inches 37.6 inches
Head Room: Rear 37.0 inches 36.6 inches
Leg Room: Front 41.6 inches 41.6 inches
Leg Room: Rear 33.7 inches 33.6 inches
Shoulder Rm: Front 52.5 inches 54.3 inches
Shoulder Rm: Rear 52.6 inches 50.0 inches
EPA Passenger 88.5 cu.ft. 34.7 cu.ft.
EPA Trunk or Cargo 11.6 cu.ft. 12.8 cu.ft.
EPA Total Interior 100.1 inches -

WARRANTY
Basic 3 years or
36000 miles 3 years or
36000 miles
Powertrain 5 years or
60000 miles 5 years or
60000 miles
Corrosion/Rust Thru 5 years or
Unlimited miles 5 years or
Unlimited miles

FEATURES
2W Anti-Lock Brakes Not Available Not Available
4W Anti-Lock Brakes Optional Standard
Front Air Conditioning Standard Standard
Front & Rear Air Conditioning Not Available Not Available
Cruise Control Standard Standard
AM/FM Radio Standard Standard
Cassette Not Available Not Available
Compact Disc Standard Standard
CD Changer Not Available Not Available
Premium Radio Not Available Not Available
DVD Entertainment System Not Available Not Available
Cup Holder Standard Port Installed
Leather Not Available Not Available
Navigation System Not Available Not Available
Privacy Glass Not Available Not Available
Hands Free Phone Not Available Not Available
Power Locks Standard Standard
Power Outlets Standard Standard
Power Mirrors Standard Standard
Remote Mirrors Not Available Not Available
Power Seat Not Available Not Available
Dual Power Seats Not Available Not Available
Folding Rear Seat Standard Standard
Moon Roof Optional Standard
Sun Roof Not Available Not Available
Remote Keyless Entry Standard Standard
Luggage Rack Not Available Not Available
Rear Window Defroster Standard Standard
Tilt Wheel Standard Standard
Tachometer Standard Standard
Traction Control Not Available Not Available
Power Windows Standard Standard
Upgraded Wheels Not Available Not Available
Power Steering Standard Standard

SPECIFICATIONS
Wheel Base 99.8 inches 106.3 inches
Overall Length 177.5 inches 173.2 inches
Width 67.3 inches 69.1 inches
Height 55.5 inches 55.7 inches
Curb Weight 2710 lbs. 2905 lbs.
Tires / Wheel Size P215/45ZR17 P215/45ZR17
Rear Tires / Wheel Size - -
Spare Tire Compact Compact
Wheel Type Alloy Alloy
Turning Radius 38.4 -
Brakes: Front Disc ABS
Disc
Brakes: Rear Disc ABS
Disc
Fuel Capacity 13.2 14.5
Axle Ratio 4.13 -
Ground Clearance 4.3
4.5 -
GVWR - -
Maximum Towing - NR
Transfer Case - -
Payload Base Capacity - -
Truck Bed Volume - -
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Scion owner's have dealership support in customizing their cars with tint, neons, accentuated cabin colors, etc.

Spec V's have better performance, all around. They were obviously not built for show like the Scion's were. Am I not right?
I love how the specs look, and as far as show they have alot of potential.
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my point is, scion tc's are more likely to be built for show, and not performance

and vice versa with spec v's
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Old May 16th, 2005, 01:11 AM   #21 (permalink)
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sometimes people get way too into arguments. i'll be glad to run a TC on a track any day if it means that much to someone. as far as outcomes, i could really care less.
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Personally i drove a scion tc with the trd exhaust and 5 speed and i liked it the tranny shifts very smooth, and has a really tactile feel to it, the interior is sweet big sunroof, sounds nice at mid to high revs rides very smooth at any speed and the seats were comfortable as can be with plenty of legroom with the trd edxhaust the hp comes to around 160something and now with the supercharger option it goes into the same 200+ performance area as the neon srt-4 so if you ask me im thinking ill go with a tc as my next car if i buy new, price to performance is perfect, though id rather have a nice used 350z or bmw 325i hell i think actuallity im getting a escort gt as my next car
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