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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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were do you stand

Where do YOU stand ??? 2004 Election Voter Guide

2004 Election Voter Guide

Depending on the way you lean, the following information could have a bearing on decisions you make in
November 2004.
Issues of Importance = *

* Gay Marriage:
President Bush is opposed.
John Kerry favors.

* Partial-Birth Abortion:
President Bush is opposed.
John Kerry favors.

* Restoring voluntary prayer in the public schools:
President Bush Favors.
John Kerry is Opposed.

* Mel Gibson & the making of a film about Christ:
President Bush supports Gibson.
John Kerry participated in Left's assault on Gibson, suggesting possible anti-Semitism even though Kerry had not seen the film.

* Boy Scouts' belief in God and not allowing Homosexual Scout Leaders:
President Bush supports Boy Scouts' stand.
John Kerry opposes boy Scouts' stand.

* Asking for God's blessing on America:
President Bush often asks God to bless America in his speeches.
John Kerry attacks Bush for mentioning God so often.

* Judges:
President bush says "We need common-sense judges who believe our rights are derived from God."
John Kerry insists on judges who support the ACLU's radical anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-family agenda.

John Kerry is insistent on blocking President Bush's federal judge appointments.

* Overall Record:
President Bush does not vote on issues before Congress but, based on his publicly stated positions, would receive an 85% conservative rating.
John Kerry, according to the highly respected, politically-neutral National Journal, rates Kerry the most liberal U. S. Senator in 2003,
- more liberal than Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm trying to get all this political stuff straightened out in " my " head


so I'll know how to vote come November. Right now, we have one guy
saying one thing.


Then the other guy says something else. Who to believe.

Lemme see; have I got this straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good...
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad...

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good...
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing!

Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the
average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the
"Tax Freedom Day".

This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the government.


This year, tax freedom day was April 11th.


That's the earliest It has been since 1991.


It's latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000.
Notice anything special about those dates?

Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are
actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts.
He gave no explanation and provided no data for this claim.
Another interesting fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men.


Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas.


Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth several million dollars.


(His ski resort home in Idaho is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces.


Not your average A-frame).
Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000.


Does that sound right?


The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out a way to avoid paying his own.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You will pay upkeep/Secret Service for 5 Kerry mansions.

It is good to be John F. Kerry....... The F stands for Forbes in case you ever wondered.

He is one of the richest Senators in Government. When someone is elected president, it means the Secret Service has to protect the President
and his family as well as his property.

The Kerry's have five US properties not counting the several foreign properties they own too. The cost to run these homes are more than what the
average American could afford, even if the rent was free, and all you had to pay the water, gas & electric. Including ground keepers, maintenance,
pool, and house keepers. To be President would require the taxpayers to pay for all that now if elected. Including a complete staffed Secret
Service security 24 hours a day. In addition to that we will have to pay for each of their homes for security improvements even if they never go
to them all there is that just in case.
Who do you think will pay for all this?

We Pay! This takes all the expense off Kerry andputs it on us. Nevertheless, factor another major cost to Americans that Kerry does not want you to
know about.

Becoming president would automatically include taking care of all their properties with Secret Service Agents that includes 5 agents per 6 hour shift 4 times a day 365 days of the year for the rest of their lives so long as they own those properties. It comes with being President once you are elected. It requires us the taxpayers, to pay for this as well as his annual salary as well as his retirements including the cost of living adjustments to boot. These salaries and protect all their real estate property with Secret
Service Agents and pay the bills for the rest of his
life.

In addition, feed the Secret Service Agents and rotate new ones every 6 hours for the rest of his life.

Do the math. Five properties need to be protected. This requires five Secret Service Agents per shift, daily every six hours, per property! That is 20
Secret Service Agents per day per property everyday including Holidays. Wow, what does that cost?

Lets say an average of 20 agents per property, each earning a about $60K per agent to survey the perimeters and protect. Now times that by five properties
so far. That is if the Kerrys do not buy any more properties afterwards. This also includes the Agents vehicles and repairs, gas, meals, days off, paid vacation, and medical plan visits etc per agent The cost we will
pay for security for the Kerry's could amount to $10,000,000 per year (that's 10 million per year for how many years 10, 20 or 30= 100 million or perhaps 300 million. Maybe this is why John Kerry is running for president--he hasn't given any other good reason. And all of this for the Kerry's who are worth billions--and we are the suckers who they will expect to pay for their
"security".

Who pays? YOU pay, the whole time they are alive after becoming President! Is this the best use of our tax money electing Kerry to take care of all their
properties both foreign and domestic? On the other hand, shouldn't he pay for his own? Yet, the Presidential salary could not afford it.

The more I think about paying for Kerrys properties everyday, just makes me happy keeping President Bush all the more merrier. Without raising taxes
to boot.

How on earth would Kerry pay for everyone to have Healthcare, increase our military, and have us pay to protect his investments, all without raising our
taxes? Tax and spend Kerry is his party motto.

Which really has to make you wonder why anyone with his wealth, would take a salary of that of a U.S. Senator, never mind wanna be President? Do you believe him now why he needs to be the Prez? To serve the people? On the other hand, the people serve Him and his wife!

Please pass the Mustard and do America a favor and pass this to your friends, lets keep Bush a resident in the White House, and not have to protect another
Kerry house.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
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read it all, and loved it all. did you come up with all that yourself?? cuz thats some really good stuff. You should mail this to Hannity, and hope he reads it or at least uses some of the points.

People need to know the true John Kerry. All the sheeple are amazed because he has a plan. Has anyone else noticed that on every single issue, he says he is going to increase government spending?? (or in the case of taxes, he says he is not going to raise taxes, even though he has voted to raise taxes 98 times). i often wonder where he is getting all this money from......


Bush/Cheney '04
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 04:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 05:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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n00b...

Anyway, all I gathered from these 2 posts is that A) Kerry supports the separation of church and state, which is GOOD. Whenever major wars and conflicts have started throughout history, the leaders of nations always preach God, and it's a shame to the name. The seediness of politics shouldn't mention it, and it shouldn't be in public schools because of ethnic diversity. I don't know how that can really reflect all that badly in Kerry's favor.

Now onto the joke about Kerry's private ownership. If while voting for the most powerful man in the world, you take the fact that he owns more private property than Bush does, then you have some issues to sort out. This is just as futile as that whole 'flip-flop' argument; it makes negligible difference in the grand scheme of things. Also, Kerry is not the richest Senator, he just has a rich wife. A very rich wife. In fact, Kerry has a lesser net worth than Bush, if their wives are removed from the picture (source here). So why make a big deal about it? He has money because his wife owns a part of Heinz, which if you ask me, deserves a lot more credibility than Cheney's shady squandering of funds with Enron and Halliburton. I guess the real point in all this is that you've never had a poor president. You've never had some guy in the middle class jump onto the stage and become a president, and you know that's not how it works. So why try to complicate things to throw an inaccurate point out there? Not only is this whole "ooh Kerry owns a barn" thing negligible in regards to the real issues at hand, it's misguided in the first place. Kerry has a marriage with a wealthy woman, and they have a prenuptial agreement, and without her, Kerry has very little compared to what Bush has. And hey, if one of the fringe benefits of being the most powerful man in the world is not having to pay taxes, who gives a shit? Elect them for their policies, instead of immature theories that end up contradicting themselves.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 05:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You can't possibly think we are going to take you serious with a bitch name like that.

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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 06:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Prettymuch all this says to me is Bush favors an offocial way of life that not everyone accepts/practices/believes.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 06:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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don't make this any harder then it has to be, gay name.
LMAO, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's a ghey name.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 06:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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um, kerry isnt for gay marraige. he is opposed to an ammendment banning gay marraige and thinks that there should be some recognition for gay couples. i just wanted to clear this up and im sure there are more errors, but im not reading all of this.
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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 06:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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nothing mentioned about the draft either...
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