war explained

TheNose247 · Sep 26th, 2004, 12:53 AM

hope this isn't type R

scrub brush · Sep 26th, 2004, 12:55 AM

Even if oil is the only reason we went to war, it's still a good reason. Oil supports the US way of life. If you don't agree, don't drive a gas powered car again.

asleepz · Sep 26th, 2004, 01:02 AM

Oil is just about as good or better than cash today

sno · Sep 26th, 2004, 02:47 AM

they don't call it black gold for nothin.

Psch91 · Sep 26th, 2004, 02:49 AM

somewhat funny, since it includes the whole oil business, but also adding "non real" words, which bush might use.

Hendrix · Sep 26th, 2004, 08:59 AM

Funny, but the thought that our people are dying because of oil = teh major suck

apachewoolf · Sep 26th, 2004, 09:28 AM

Bullshit

Ninety-Nine SE-L · Sep 26th, 2004, 03:48 PM

Bush is just as big of a pussy as Kerry. Any idiot with enough resources can invade a country.

What makes Bush a strong leader??? His ability to send wave after wave of disposable, faceless soldiers into a country he can't even spell?

kaptainkrollio · Sep 26th, 2004, 04:41 PM

he's using clinton's military to boot.

apachewoolf · Sep 26th, 2004, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninety-Nine SE-L

Bush is just as big of a pussy as Kerry. Any idiot with enough resources can invade a country.

What makes Bush a strong leader??? His ability to send wave after wave of disposable, faceless soldiers into a country he can't even spell?

so who is faceless?????
I quit getting into this debates/arguments simply because of statements like this......
I am not faceless and I am proud of being over there and I can't wait to go back
if you were not so close minded or blinded by ignorance you would see the whole picture instead of just what the democrats want you to see...put down the remote and pick up a history book of Iraq and see that this was bigger than just oil and wmd...this is about people and protecting ourselves from what could happen

Let me ask one question...Is it better to be on the offensive or the deffensive??
Yeah it sucks over there right now because we are fighting for people who don't know a better life. They haved lived this way forever and we are doing something that has never been done in a middle easern country..Bringing stability to a country that has only known bloodshed, torture and genocide

Hendrix · Sep 26th, 2004, 05:03 PM

^I hear what you're saying, but why must it be our (because I have family and friends there) blood spilled to make life better for someone else?

apachewoolf · Sep 26th, 2004, 05:14 PM

I never said it was a perfect world it's just the choice we make living in a super power
I have been shot at 4 times while in Iraq but I have also shook the hands of many many people who depend on us to protect them..our biggest threat is sitting back and letting other countries do as they please when it comes to terrorist and such.

We chose to go in as a means to stabilize a country that supported terrorist..sure we haven't found some of the things we thought we would find but I myself have helped destroy a training camp in northern Iraq near Mosul...
I could go on and on about the things I have seen there that justified us being there but I know that the debates on here do nothing to change the minds of people. They already have their minds made up.
I will give you one example of something I saw with my own eyes (not watched on tv)
Going thru quaray (don't know the spelling) and some people came up to us saying that Saddam men had took their loved ones and they haven't seen them in years. About a week later we were doing recon on this site and discovered that people were staying away from this one hill. We went to check it out and discovered a mass grave with over 3,000 bodies in it...
They were all killed withen a one week period
People can say what they want as to the reasons we are there but me...I'm there to put a stop to things like that

Hendrix · Sep 26th, 2004, 05:22 PM

^you are very giving. never go into politics, you won't stand a chance

Ninety-Nine SE-L · Sep 26th, 2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by apachewoolf

I quit getting into this debates/arguments simply because of statements like this......

I will trash Bush's name any chance I get.

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so who is faceless?????
I am not faceless and I am proud of being over there and I can't wait to go back

I'm saying that Bush sees soldiers as faceless numbers committed to carrying out his own will w/o question. Bush has a 2-dimensional mind. There are people that follow his every belief and there are terrorists.

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if you were not so close minded or blinded by ignorance you would see the whole picture instead of just what the democrats want you to see...put down the remote and pick up a history book of Iraq and see that this was bigger than just oil and wmd...this is about people and protecting ourselves from what could happen

The great thing is I have seen both views and I make my own decisions. Let's see how close minded you are. Have you seen Fahrenheit 911? Have you watched Bill Mahar? Have you watched the Democratic National Convention? Most Republicans are alot more close minded than democrats, most refuse to listen to anything democrats have to say. They honestly have nothing bad about Kerry to go on, so they resort to lies and rumors. Let's make fun of Kerry's millitary past (oh shit, that's right, Bush's millitary past is worse)

As a democrat, I have listened to republicans and I have seen both views and I have come to the conclusion that Bush has the upper hand because he can manipulate people's fears. You WILL die if you don't vote for me b/c Kerry is going to let terrorists into your homes.

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Let me ask one question...Is it better to be on the offensive or the deffensive??

That's another one of those Bush 2-dimensional quotes. You're either on the offensive or the defensive. Ever think it would be possible to take leaders out of power by doing a little research and minimizing your losses? A coward can make peace into war, a leader can turn war into peace. Bush is not a leader just because he can tell people what to do. He can't even compose his own thoughts let alone make vital global decisions.

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Yeah it sucks over there right now because we are fighting for people who don't know a better life. They haved lived this way forever and we are doing something that has never been done in a middle easern country..Bringing stability to a country that has only known bloodshed, torture and genocide

and here we are, standing in the middle of this as if we can change their minds. Here's an idea, get the people who are a threat to us and leave the people alone. Saddam is out of power, they got a new leader, what's left for us to do? Open a McDonalds? They need their own ploice force, there's nothing left for us to do there b/c they're not exactly open to our thoughts.

apachewoolf · Sep 26th, 2004, 05:39 PM

what police force do they have? If we left now it would be worse than it was before. Close minded?
I am by far the most open minded person in the world. I'm not a democrat because I feel that democrats only care about the popular vote. I'm not republican because I feel that they think they know best. I am Libertarian because I beleive in a middle ground a comprimise can be reached to satisfy most of the people but not all.That being said I think politicians need to get their heads out of there ass and figure out what do we do now.