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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush Didn't read it???

WASHINGTON, July 19 — Responding to allegations that it falsified some of its case for war with Iraq, the Bush administration on Friday released parts of an intelligence assessment from October that cited “compelling evidence” that Iraq was trying to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program. The document included a notation from the State Department calling an assertion at the center of the controversy “highly dubious,” but a White House official said Bush never read that section of the report,

THE WHITE HOUSE has been under pressure to explain how a sentence accusing Iraq of seeking uranium from Africa made its way into the president’s State of the Union address in January. The accusation, which later turned out to involve the West African nation of Niger, has since been discredited.
CIA Director George Tenet accepted responsibility for allowing the president to make the false accusation, saying his agency approved the sentence in reviewing the final draft of the speech.

Just like his college years....lol... Not sure which is worse, the prez not reading inteligent reports throughly enough to make an educated statement or the CIA approving what the President of the United States says to the people..
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey, whata ya expect from a closet liberal like Bush. I never thought a republican could grow the federal government faster than Clinton but Bushy's done it. Now I know why I didnt vote for him in the first place. Repubs and Dems and all the same, more more more government while taking less and less responsability.

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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey, whata ya expect from a closet liberal like Bush. I never thought a republican could grow the federal government faster than Clinton but Bushy's done it. Now I know why I didnt vote for him in the first place. Repubs and Dems and all the same, more more more government while taking less and less responsability.

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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 05:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess that means he's not gonna get elected again huh?
Anyone from florida here?
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 06:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess that means he's not gonna get elected again huh?
Anyone from florida here?
hahaha yeah this time read the ballot carefully and punch the damn holes out...
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 06:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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And to say we went to war over "baseless" or "falsified" intelligence information. Guess how stupid we're going to look to the world and guess how many more countries won't like us anymore. Yea, time for Nader to be president. Go Nader!
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 06:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd vote Libertarian if I didn't know that it was just taking votes away from the Republican and giving them to the Democrat. Unfortunately, the Republican candidates are always the lesser of 2 evils.I am disappointed by both GW and Jeb,but will vote for them since there is no other viable candidate to oppose Liberals.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 07:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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well, duh...

a-duh...a-duh...a-duh-a-duh-a-duh-dubya!

we already knew there was a lot of false info used to start this war... they ought nought...err..not to have thought up so many reasons for starting the war, they shoulda just said we're going to liberate some iraqis, let's get it on!
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You know, ever since I have been reading and watching the mess-ups (pretty big ones, for that matter) of the Republicans from especially Reagan onwards, I am only forced to think like a liberal, a liberal who cares not only for his people, but as a citizen of a superpower would like to use his influence to correct things instead of making them worse.

Since Bush has been in power, this country has lost its credibility, economic and financial strength, and most importantly its international support. This isolationasim and unilateral decision-making of the Bush administration with regards to world matters worries me more than the shitty taste of Taco-Bell food. What we need is a leader who knows his grammar, and has actually done something without the help of his daddy.
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Green Party in 2020;I'm being realistic

But on the real, whether you're a democrat or republican, you're bound to screw up. Republicans screwups tend to put the american people into deeper debt, and when the Democrat comes into power, they have no choice but to raise taxes to cover for the error of their predecessor. Then, the Republican uses the "Protestant Ethic" that is instinctive within many people growing up with this county's cultural values & states that their kids are starving due to the Democrat's tax raise, when all thats really happening is Johnny & Mary Silverspoon are getting 1 less piece of filet mignon a month. After all this, the Republican comes into power, puts us deeper in debt, and leads us into stupid ventures (so do Democrats occasionally, but since LBJ they've been pretty cautious about it.) The democrats only current problems are that sometimes they are viewed as too soft and indecisive (carter) or think with the wrong head (clinton.) But, those are only the ones in office, the rest range the spectrum from rebadged Republicans to good logical socialists to socialist whackos of the Castro/Stalin camp.

Now you know y I refuse to vote for the major parties, especially in CA where its currently practically impossible that a conservative Republican will come into state office, I might as well make my opinion heard and vote 3rd party. Its not that one vote doesn't count, its that the electoral college and majority politics dilute them.

And Bush, closet liberal, don't make me laugh. In the modern day, the political spectrum is changing, and its not the size of the governmental services collectively that differentiates the wings, but only the concentration of the sizes in different areas. Although, for a good minutes after 9-11, Bush touched upon Keynesian economic principles, he quickly went back to his Friedman-esque ways.
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 08:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'd vote Libertarian if I didn't know that it was just taking votes away from the Republican and giving them to the Democrat. .
I think you have that backwards... if you add up the votes for Nader in Florida and figure a higher precentage would have gone to Gore then he would be president...the sad thing is all the same BS would still be happening... it hurts each day when I log online just about everyday there is a little caption that reads "Another American Killed In IRAQ".... Unfortunatly that will be commonplace and will come with more frequency if we stay and try to occupy the country.. Just gives me a bad feeling... nextt hey will be calling them advisors...
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I'd vote Libertarian if I didn't know that it was just taking votes away from the Republican and giving them to the Democrat. Unfortunately, the Republican candidates are always the lesser of 2 evils.I am disappointed by both GW and Jeb,but will vote for them since there is no other viable candidate to oppose Liberals.
so in your mind what would compose a liberal candidate? just curious...

To me they have all become the same coin... two sides, but still the same coin.
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Green Party in 2020;I'm being realistic

But on the real, whether you're a democrat or republican, you're bound to screw up. Republicans screwups tend to put the american people into deeper debt, and when the Democrat comes into power, they have no choice but to raise taxes to cover for the error of their predecessor. Then, the Republican uses the "Protestant Ethic" that is instinctive within many people growing up with this county's cultural values & states that their kids are starving due to the Democrat's tax raise, when all thats really happening is Johnny & Mary Silverspoon are getting 1 less piece of filet mignon a month. After all this, the Republican comes into power, puts us deeper in debt, and leads us into stupid ventures (so do Democrats occasionally, but since LBJ they've been pretty cautious about it.) The democrats only current problems are that sometimes they are viewed as too soft and indecisive (carter) or think with the wrong head (clinton.) But, those are only the ones in office, the rest range the spectrum from rebadged Republicans to good logical socialists to socialist whackos of the Castro/Stalin camp.

Now you know y I refuse to vote for the major parties, especially in CA where its currently practically impossible that a conservative Republican will come into state office, I might as well make my opinion heard and vote 3rd party. Its not that one vote doesn't count, its that the electoral college and majority politics dilute them.

And Bush, closet liberal, don't make me laugh. In the modern day, the political spectrum is changing, and its not the size of the governmental services collectively that differentiates the wings, but only the concentration of the sizes in different areas. Although, for a good minutes after 9-11, Bush touched upon Keynesian economic principles, he quickly went back to his Friedman-esque ways.
Well put...
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 08:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Does anyone care that a terrorist supporting nation was leveled?
I for one don't miss Saddam whether or not Bush was 'misinformed'.

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P.S. I'm waiting for the world to blame this 'erroneous war' on the Jews....
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Old Jul 19th, 2003, 09:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Does anyone care that a terrorist supporting nation was leveled?
I for one don't miss Saddam whether or not Bush was 'misinformed'.

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P.S. I'm waiting for the world to blame this 'erroneous war' on the Jews....
There is still no viable proof that Saddam had anything to do with terrorism... I think we probably created more future terrorist.

Saddam was/is a western type dictator... how many times did you see a pic of him wearing military type garb instead of a traditional arab clothing... Saddam is/was not a religous fanatic... unless you count power and greed as a religion...
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