PS - Have you test driven the Accord yet? You really should, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised.
i dont know why you're antagonizing me so much, i didnt say i dont like the Z06 corvette, in fact i would gladly take a new Z06, i was just saying that i wish there was something faster for cheaper that the rednecks didnt know about because i keep getting this "duuuurr, corvette is faster" crap every time i talk about liking a different car and i want them to be wrong because its basically making a stereotype true. I'm not a "fanboy" and calling me that is ignorant.
i dont know why you're antagonizing me so much, i didnt say i dont like the Z06 corvette, in fact i would gladly take a new Z06, i was just saying that i wish there was something faster for cheaper that the rednecks didnt know about because i keep getting this "duuuurr, corvette is faster" crap every time i talk about liking a different car and i want them to be wrong because its basically making a stereotype true. I'm not a "fanboy" and calling me that is ignorant.
Redneck = Ignorance...Ignorance does not pay the bills.
Therefore, rednecks DO NOT OWN Corvettes.
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Redneck = Ignorance...Ignorance does not pay the bills.
Therefore, rednecks DO NOT OWN Corvettes.
oh but they do, there are several mysteriously rich rednecks in my neighborhood that ride 4 wheelers at all times of the night and still somehow manage to own corvettes. Its not even a matter of them owning it, its a matter of them saying they are faster and being right that pisses me off. They think its faster "cuz its got da V8" and they live by the "V8=god" philosophy and it drives me insane because it isnt necessarily true and rarely is without thousands of dollars of tuning. Its like if you were a rocket scientist trying to figure out how much air would be the absolute minimum for a trip through space and a redneck just says "4 days worth, duuhh" and hes technically right in spite of the fact he is a total idiot and not really knowing what all it entails, its kinda like that.
V8 does equal god...Sure you can get a 4cyl/6cyl pushing more power than a v8 but what it will come down to is reliability and driveability.
Does that make me a redneck, because I think that? If it does then I find you to be quite arrogant in the fact that you can't give credit where credit is due.
Granted, I do not think allV8s are god but merely the ones that are done correctly...the Vettes do just that.
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Redneck = Ignorance...Ignorance does not pay the bills.
Therefore, rednecks DO NOT OWN Corvettes.
You are wrong my friend. I live in the trailor park of Amerca.......Alabama. Most of the corvettes I see are driven by middle aged guys with no teeth and flannel shirts that live in trailor parks They dont have house payments, and they eat whatver they shoot that weekend, so they dont have anythign else to put money into other than their car payment.
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I personally disagree with this one... nothing more distracting than talking to a girl with a couple of caterpillars playing chicken on her forehead.
V8 does equal god...Sure you can get a 4cyl/6cyl pushing more power than a v8 but what it will come down to is reliability and driveability.
Does that make me a redneck, because I think that? If it does then I find you to be quite arrogant in the fact that you can't give credit where credit is due.
Granted, I do not think allV8s are god but merely the ones that are done correctly...the Vettes do just that.
being V8 doesnt not necessarily mean its reliable. In fact, its common knowledge V8s tend to be less reliable because it contains more moving parts. Now, im sure a high sprung over boosted 4 isnt a model of reliability, but thats kinda "duh". Also, thats what i was saying, most V8s like the crown victoria V8 are garbage unless you pour some SERIOUS cash into modding it and many vehicles that come with V8s (trucks) are much too heavy to be fast especially when handling comes into the equation. And as long as we're cylinder counting, how about V 10 and V12's? Most of it comes down to the design of the engine and how much modern technology it implies. Yes the corvette engine is pretty well done but unless im mistaken its not even DOHC, if they would really modernize they would be getting stupid high horsepower numbers. Most V8s currently in production have 20 year old technology whereas engines like *for instance* the RB26 uses very modern computer technology to make a very efficient 6 cylinder engine. As for driveability, thats 99% where the torque is available and also why i want nothing to do with a honda. Even though my car only puts out 180 lb ft (well, more since i have I/H/E) which would be useless in a heavier car it will get moving in any gear at pretty much at any speed because of the lightweight of the car so really any car can be "driveable" if the torque isnt too peaky and the car is light enough. Now that the displacement tax (not sure if that really existed but my friend said thats why nearly all japanese cars were made 2.0 or 3.0 liter to stay low on taxes, so dont quote me on that) and the horsepower cap is gone in Japan we will start seeing some cars that will crush domestics because Japanese car makers have some very dedicated employess and that will no doubt lead to some SERIOUS horsepower.
It's because in most of your posts you make untrue, off base statements statements, such as the following:
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its common knowledge V8s tend to be less reliable because it contains more moving parts
Plus the fact that your arguements run in circles and only serve to show that you have very little real knowledge of cars, only that which you've gleaned from magazines, the odd book, random guesses and myths. Now, go find the July '99 edition of Motortrend, delve into your imagination and prepare a poorly written, unedited reply that in the end will not be based on anything that ever happened here in the real world.
You are wrong my friend. I live in the trailor park of Amerca.......Alabama. Most of the corvettes I see are driven by middle aged guys with no teeth and flannel shirts that live in trailor parks They dont have house payments, and they eat whatver they shoot that weekend, so they dont have anythign else to put money into other than their car payment.
It's because in most of your posts you make untrue, off base statements statements, such as the following:
Plus the fact that your arguements run in circles and only serve to show that you have very little real knowledge of cars, only that which you've gleaned from magazines, the odd book, random guesses and myths. Now, go find the July '99 edition of Motortrend, delve into your imagination and prepare a poorly written, unedited reply that in the end will not be based on anything that ever happened here in the real world.
OK, give me a very concise and structured argument and i will give you a concise and structured rebuttle. Also, if i dont take my facts from magazines/books etc. where am i supposed to get them? the honda forums? you? the local mechanic down the street that thinks K&N filters are the devil because you use oil in it? I am a mechanical engineering major and all i learn either comes from that and knowledge about what car has what engine and what cars tend to be reliable comes from knowing people with different types of vehicles and from magazines because if magazines arent trustworthy they become like THE STAR or THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER and no one even bothers with them.
P.S. isnt this thread about raping horses? maybe we should make a new thread to argue this eh?
OK, give me a very concise and structured argument and i will give you a concise and structured rebuttle. Also, if i dont take my facts from magazines/books etc. where am i supposed to get them? the honda forums? you? the local mechanic down the street that thinks K&N filters are the devil because you use oil in it? I am a mechanical engineering major and all i learn either comes from that and knowledge about what car has what engine and what cars tend to be reliable comes from knowing people with different types of vehicles and from magazines because if magazines arent trustworthy they become like THE STAR or THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER and no one even bothers with them.
Whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Instead of 'concise and structured', I think maybe you should work in steps toward such an ambitious goal, and in your case, I'd start with 'coherent and relevant'.
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Whoa, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Instead of 'concise and structured', I think maybe you should work in steps toward such an ambitious goal, and in your case, I'd start with 'coherent and relevant'.
well, why dont you make an argument so we can try it out then eh? and lets take it out of the horse raping section while were at it, k?
well, why dont you make an argument so we can try it out then eh? and lets take it out of the horse raping section while were at it, k?
Your call, I guess.
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being V8 doesnt not necessarily mean its reliable. In fact, its common knowledge V8s tend to be less reliable because it contains more moving parts.
I think you're mixing something up here. Rotary engines are sometimes said to be more reliable, but as far as an 8-cylinder vs a 6 or 4-cylinder engine, the semantics/layout are fairly common and you don't really have any ground here.
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Now, im sure a high sprung over boosted 4 isnt a model of reliability, but thats kinda "duh". Also, thats what i was saying, most V8s like the crown victoria V8 are garbage unless you pour some SERIOUS cash into modding it and many vehicles that come with V8s (trucks) are much too heavy to be fast especially when handling comes into the equation. And as long as we're cylinder counting, how about V 10 and V12's? Most of it comes down to the design of the engine and how much modern technology it implies.
You'll be surprised to note that 'modern technology' is just that. For the record, I still see crown vics all over the place. I also see those old-ass multicoloured Civics all over the place. If you see fewer Crown Vics, etc. on the road now, chances are it's because they get like 5mpg.
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Yes the corvette engine is pretty well done but unless im mistaken its not even DOHC, if they would really modernize they would be getting stupid high horsepower numbers.
I'd recommend you not make an assertion like this.
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Most V8s currently in production have 20 year old technology
whereas engines like *for instance* the RB26 uses very modern computer technology to make a very efficient 6 cylinder engine. As for driveability, thats 99% where the torque is available and also why i want nothing to do with a honda.
Every car and truck being released on the market today (except for maybe Russia) uses very modern computer technology. And no, your car isn't better than a Honda just because it's a Nissan. Seriously, cut the fanboy shit.
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the horsepower cap is gone in Japan we will start seeing some cars that will crush domestics because Japanese car makers have some very dedicated employess and that will no doubt lead to some SERIOUS horsepower.
Do you know why Japanese automakers are having such success right now? Gas mileage and safety ratings. They are kicking the shit out of the USDM in that regard, and it looks like they're going to for awhile. They're smarter than Ford and Dodge, who are always designing cars that have bigger engines, increased weight, and bigger price tags. Why buy a hideously overpriced pickup truck with a fucking spoiler on it when you can buy a Hyundai for $8,000 that has a 10-year warranty? Let it be known that any Japanese supercars will have a price tag so far above your head that nobody will care at all. Sure, people mention McClaren F1's now and then, but who really cares about them? Nobody.
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