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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 06:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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practical calculations for gas cost of trip

A fun little exercise in something practical

Given:
X = per gallon gasoline (where X is the price you paid at the pump)
Y = gallon capacity (where Y is the gas tank capacity of your car)
Z = total miles driven to deplete your gas tank

Question:
1. What is the price you paid to fill up your gas tank from when it's empty
2. How much does it cost you to drive 20 miles?

Ideal Theory solution
X * Y = (3.29 * 10) = about 33
Z = 300 (an approximate figure)
20/300 = 2/30 = 1/15 of 33 = (1/15)*33 = 33/15 = $2.20

Practical Theory solution
Most of the times, we were given the total cost at the pump, and how much X costs. Because the capacity filled varies each time, and driving conditions varies it also affects the total milage for that tank of gas ... we can only calculate the average of miles per gallon over a series of visits at the pump.

What you can do to track this is by printing out a receit if you're paying by credit or debit card. X is given to you, along with gallons filled. Keep that receit, reset your odometor, and wait til the next time you need gas filled again, then take the old receit out and record the number of miles driven, then reset your odometer again. It's not a perfect method, but over a couple of recordings, you will have an accurate average of total miles driven along with the average of gallons consumed, use those figures to find the miles per gallon (MPG) of your vehicle. Also figure out the average of prices paid at the pump for later calculations.

In the future, if you've ever wondered ... 'hmp... I wonder how much this trip is gonna cost me?' you can take the distance of the trip (in this case 20 miles), and assuming your car's actual MPG is 32.

Since you have the actual MPG number, which is 32, take that number and multiply it by Y, where Y is the total capacity your gas tank is capable of holding in order to get the number for Z, in this case Z represents the ideal number of miles driven in order to deplete your gas tank.

So... take the distance of trip 20 miles, put it over Z, or 20/Z, is equivalent to the ratio of C/X, where C is the unknown cost of the trip. So (20/Z)=(C/X), or (20X/Z) = C

holy shit ... I hope someone will make sense of all this.

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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 06:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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After I realized how much gas costs these days, I stopped driving around so much during my free time. Basically I calculated that it costs me about a dollar for every 10 miles driven ... it really adds up.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 11:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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or you could NOT do all that bullshit and just do this:

A=Miles driven
B=MPG of car


A/B= (answer is gallons of gas used)
multiply answer by price of gasoline. (answer in dollars)

wow, 7 paragraphs condensed into 2 lines. some people are too fond of bafflegabbing to make themselves feel/sound smarter. whereas a simple to the point solution demonstrates more intelligence (in my opinion at least).

currently costs me 2.29 a day to go to work; gas price 3.19, 25mpg, 18mi. but me and my girl carpool, so the effective cost per day is only 1.15 a day
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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 03:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hey, it's been awhile since I had algebra. yup, your answer looks right, thanks for sharing You are a genius!

Here's another longer version...
A = miles driven for trip
B = actual MPG of car
G = average price paid at pump to fill it up (or X*Y)

find x, where x is the cost of trip

equation: A/B = x/G or (AG)/B = x

Anyways, it's pretty easy to figure out when someone pays attention to what they're paying at the pump, how much gas in gallons, and how many miles they get out of it.

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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 06:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'll just stick with using my head to figure the cost rather than whip out my new TI-xx calculator wearing a pocket protector with pens.






...sorry Mark.
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Old Sep 3rd, 2005, 08:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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or you could NOT do all that bullshit and just do this:

A=Miles driven
B=MPG of car


A/B= (answer is gallons of gas used)
multiply answer by price of gasoline. (answer in dollars)

wow, 7 paragraphs condensed into 2 lines. some people are too fond of bafflegabbing to make themselves feel/sound smarter. whereas a simple to the point solution demonstrates more intelligence (in my opinion at least).
What are you daft? The paragraph he posted clearly explained how to calculate your actual MPG (+/- a small amount) because we all know that the numbers given from the company (exp: 25mpg city/38 highway) are complete bullshit.

And I have been doing this for years. Notice in all the milage related threads I post in, I give multiple readings and usually even have my cost per Kilometer worked out.

It's not that hard, and for most people like us, a full page explanation is not needed, but I worked with someone at my chevy dealership who thought her ford escape got better milage than her toyota tercel because she could drive the escape longer before filling it up. ... yeah, we fired her.
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I'll just stick with using my head to figure the cost rather than whip out my new TI-xx calculator wearing a pocket protector with pens.






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you forgot the slide rule
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I don't even want to think about what my MPG is. I went to autozone and got a bottle of fuel system cleaner, got my tires to proper pressure, and filled up the tank. For the past 3 days I've been shifting no higher than 2500rpm (yeah it's killing me) and kept off the highway, which isn't a big deal. I've also eliminated any extra travel. Just work, school, girl. The needle has barely dropped below the top notch, it was a little off the guage when I filled it. Done about 35 miles since filling it too.
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What are you daft? The paragraph he posted clearly explained how to calculate your actual MPG (+/- a small amount) because we all know that the numbers given from the company (exp: 25mpg city/38 highway) are complete bullshit.

And I have been doing this for years. Notice in all the milage related threads I post in, I give multiple readings and usually even have my cost per Kilometer worked out.

It's not that hard, and for most people like us, a full page explanation is not needed, but I worked with someone at my chevy dealership who thought her ford escape got better milage than her toyota tercel because she could drive the escape longer before filling it up. ... yeah, we fired her.
ok, take out the TWO paragraphs to explain how to get actual mileage and you're still left with 5 mostly useless paragraphs. and for some reason i dont think necro actually wrote that...thats why i'm so hard on it (because i think its BS from some publication)

and BTW, i had to use my TI-92 to plot a fuel consumption progression over the period of several months to get the most accurate fuel consumption rates...lol
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I don't think he wrote them either.

And yeah, I'm always recording my milage down because even that simple method isn't extremely accurate.

So long as the numbers I get aren't stupidely off, I know my car continues to be in decent shape.
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Old Sep 4th, 2005, 07:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks, I take that as a compliment

I didn't copy it from any publications in case you're wondering. I simply got really bored and this topic just happened to pop into my mind.

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It's not that hard, and for most people like us, a full page explanation is not needed, but I worked with someone at my chevy dealership who thought her ford escape got better milage than her toyota tercel because she could drive the escape longer before filling it up. ... yeah, we fired her.

Are you serious?
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Yes. She was a older parent of 2, single mom, washing cars for barely above minimum wage. She wasn't too bright, and was always arguing with her boss.

And when the owner of the dealership asker her to wash his bling-blinged Tahoe, she said no because she had more important things to do.

Yeah, not the brightest.
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