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Old Jan 19th, 2004, 04:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Ever wonder what it takes to get a Skyline legal?

For anyone who may wonder about what needs to be done to get a Skyline on the road in the US.
Go to this DOT site:
http://dms.dot.gov/search/searchFormSimple.cfm

Under Docket Search, make sure Docket Number is selected on the left and type 5507 in the right and click search. It will come up with the import petition, a lot of what needed to be converted to make it legal. (Not all, they hide the body structural mods so that they keeps the rights to the import) Also the crash test report with some pics (bad quality) and the final approval.
The files are large, but very interesting if you want to truely know what it takes to make one legal!
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Old Jan 19th, 2004, 02:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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wow thanks for that link its great.There is a whole lot they go through.I imagined to see Motorex all over that.Who is JK Motors Im right by Baltimore and havent heard of them.Better look into that later.
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 12:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i want to buy a skyline i found online but has any one actually had one legalized and how?
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 10:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ooooo...

First of all......how the HELL did you ever find those docets? Very Impressive... But anywho... IMO It seems like it should be public knowledge what needs to be done to legalize ANY car... I guess my big question is, on the off chance that what needs to be done structurally and such, could you just simply take it to any lil grease-monkey's shop that does inspections to get it certified? Stupid question I know, but the legal aspect of this stuff blows my mind...
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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nevermind...

Damn...after about 20 minutes of more researchand seeing what all has to be done straight from one of the big wigs of motorex (that guy sees to be a TOTAL douche..) http://forums.skylinesdownunder.co.n...c/19162-1.html I think I give up... sad really..

" #1 Catalytic convertor - why use a caddy one ? Why not something - heavily loaded with a metal substrate ? Or how about a preheated cat? Give ya a clue - One wont work..... and turbos act as big heat sinks - keeping the cat from lighting off......find a solution.....

#2 - Its not a smog test . Its a FTP test. Its an 11 mile drive cycle done from a cold start on a dyno. Each test is $900 - $1500 depending on the lab. One test a day. Also there is a SHED test. Which is where the car is put into a SHED (looks kinda like a paint booth) - where the fuel tank is heated and evaporative emissions are tested.

These are no little bull**** state emissions tests . State tests are cake after FTP testing.

#3 180 days to bring the car into compliance - export to country of orgin or destroy...

#4 High test - Its a spec fuel for the FTP test

#5 - High test - I imagine you are refering to a higher octane fuel ? Actually a higher octane burns slower. Low test or lower octane if you are trying to pass an emissions test..."

...and aparently that isnt even all of it. Guess Im struck with a damn sr20det
swap...:siigh: It will be cheaper anyway...
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 06:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Fascinating Stuff...

Well, it appeared that this company J.K. Motors tried to legalize a Skyline back in 1999, and succeeded... well... What happened to them afterwards?
They are known as J.K Technologies now but some of the pics in those PDF files have pictures of Skylines under-going crash tests, one of which has a banner over the front wind shield that Says "Motorex"
Are they linked?
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 07:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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There are other ways of getting around all this too. All that other shit is for working skylines. Buy a non running skyline and import it. Next, register it as a kit car. Problem solved right there. How do you think people drive shelby cobra's or any other type of rare car on the street. America is a land of DIY. That's how this is possible. But a non working skyline. Fix it, register as a kit car. There you go. It's proven.
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 07:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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There are other ways of getting around all this too. All that other shit is for working skylines. Buy a non running skyline and import it. Next, register it as a kit car. Problem solved right there. How do you think people drive shelby cobra's or any other type of rare car on the street. America is a land of DIY. That's how this is possible. But a non working skyline. Fix it, register as a kit car. There you go. It's proven.
Try looking up the state law for a kit car. Most states are very specific about what constitutes a kit car, specifically the powertrain and how it will be emissions tested.

I know not all states require the emissions test, but you are still violating a bunch of federal laws by doing it. Besides, if you roll up in a skyline that has Nissan stamped all over ever part on the car, you really think that the state inspector won't notice?
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Old Jan 20th, 2004, 08:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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They are known as J.K Technologies now but some of the pics in those PDF files have pictures of Skylines under-going crash tests, one of which has a banner over the front wind shield that Says "Motorex"
Are they linked?
As far as I know Motorex contracted them to do the work. The generalized version of what needs to be done was in the public folders. The details were in the attachments that are not public. I think that this was done to protect motorex's investment.
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I guess you could get a Skyline in the states that way but the problem is registering it?How?I say get a S14 and do the RB26DETT swap that is about as close as you are going to get.
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Old Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Motorex - before it was Motorex - before they were a Registered Importer contracted with JK Technologies to help with the Skyline legalization.

I visited JK , and the DOT several times when I was working at Motorex. No Skyline was ever legalized by JK . Every car was legalized by Motorex.

http://www.mirageautosports.com/GTR/Importation.html
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Old Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Motorex - before it was Motorex - before they were a Registered Importer contracted with JK Technologies to help with the Skyline legalization.

I visited JK , and the DOT several times when I was working at Motorex. No Skyline was ever legalized by JK . Every car was legalized by Motorex.
That would explain the coincidence then... So why would the EPA part of the deal not be published like the DOT stuff?
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You can get the EPA stuff by asking under the FOI.

But only an ICI can do the EPA work.
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Old Jan 22nd, 2004, 02:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You can get the EPA stuff by asking under the FOI.

But only an ICI can do the EPA work.
Interesting stuff... Think people are just fascinated with the whole legalization process cause it's so unknown and Motorex are the only people doing that conversion to a car we all know and love.
Well, i've got my two cars now and apart from them missing the Engine Bay stickers showing conformity of EPA work done, i'm more or less set.
God knows how G&K missed that out... Question whether they did anything to begin with!
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You have the 2 GTS ?

California cars ? Do they have a BAR label ?

I have reason to think they still need to go back to G & K to get completed.....

Something Motorex may have fogotten to tell you.
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