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#16 Old Jun 18th, 2006, 06:24 PM
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Yeah, for a guy who had a good idea to make money, he wasn't very smart about thinking it thru. It always seems that sooner or later you get caught.
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As a person in the know, from a inside source with the feds. MotoRex lost their DOT license, to import, and register Skylines in the US, due to people not receiving their Skylines when promised. The only make of Skylisne that was orignially allowed in the US was the R33, all of the work for the crash testing came from a shop in Baltimore, MD, which then sold the rights to MotoRex. Currently importing Skylines are the newest money laundering scheme, and Immigrations Customs Enforcement are enjoying working the cases. I know of a R32 and 2 R33 that were shipped back to Japan, after being sold at auction, along with a Civic Type-R from Japan.

you might as well wait for the 08' Nissan GT-R if you want one.

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check your facts cause they are all wrong.....not even close
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#19 Old Jun 23rd, 2006, 02:30 PM
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check your facts cause they are all wrong.....not even close
That's hittin' the nail on the head. It was never a money laundering scheme. It's called being caught de-frauding the U.S. gov't! Forging a federal document that says that a vehicle has been "legally converted" is a huge no-no. He (Hiro) is now aware of that. And as far as importing one here to the states....if you know what you are doing, you can have one clean, clear and legal.

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Can someone provide me with a document to why the Skyline R34 isn't allowed in the US? It cant be for speed or HP because there's some cars here in the US with HUGE HP!
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Can someone provide me with a document to why the Skyline R34 isn't allowed in the US? It cant be for speed or HP because there's some cars here in the US with HUGE HP!
If I had to make a hypothesis on that, I would say it's because the R34 has no smog equipment (i.e. no cats) and it probably doesn't meet the b/s crash test standards that the U.S. has. I'd still import one for myself and register it, even if I DID have to break some laws.
My desire for R33 or R34 GTR > any bullshit U.S. vehicle registration laws.

God must love stupid people; he made so many of them.
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the laws set by the goverment have no real bearing on the facts...

Fact: skylines are safer than many other us manufactured vehicle of equivilent year.

Fact: japanese emissions controls are much much tighter than us emissions regulations.
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the laws set by the goverment have no real bearing on the facts...

Fact: skylines are safer than many other us manufactured vehicle of equivilent year.

Fact: japanese emissions controls are much much tighter than us emissions regulations.
just the US auto makers make you believe its false
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Well I havent posted in some time because my attempt to make a go at importing the Skylines fell flat on its face. Everyone out there is so Motorex shy that no one wanted the buy the cars.

Fact: The state legal thing WILL NOT work. If you dont think Clint Lindsay isnt watching these forum your nuts.

Fact: R34's arent allowed into the country because they have not been "properly" tested to the governments compliance list. NOTHING MORE. Motorex did crash repo/recontruct for the government, but after they reviewed the facts and everything that Hiro/Nono did they feel that the test results were "revised" by the companies involved.

Fact: Evolution Imports is not a scam, they are just people that use the laws in place and bend them just like the government does everyday to get ahead. I have seen 1st hand what the government will do to make sure they have "control".

Fact: Skylines as kit cars, assembled from parts, "clips" or otherwise parted together cars that will make a skyline or be registered as a skyline are flagged on the US DOT/US DMV database. Since there were never any skylines produced in the US they dont even have a listing in their database that fits the description of a skyline.

Fact: Any car that does not have a 16-17 digit VIN is also flagged in the DMV database for a "CODE 58 or CODE 54" which is a noncompliant VIN. The car will be reviewed and will be denied registration/title.

Fact: 4-6 more Skylines must be sacraficed to the car gods to make them completely legal here in the US the R34's will not come in until that is done. R32's will never be allowed because they have no factory air bag system.

Fact: The last one I am going to post, the government does what they see fit when they see fit how they see fit. Its their laws and they can do what they want. If you want to try and sneak one by them go ahead and try and I personally SINCERELY hope you succeed. Because these are the funniest cars I have ever driven and still drive today. I have had my share of ups and downs with banks, customers, companies outside the US and to be honest its all been worth it everytime I get in my car and drive around. As Skylineimports has stated they are just as safe if not safer then most of the US manufactured cars of a like year car. So all the hype the government has put on this car is all a bunch of bullshit, why I DONT KNOW. Good luck guys, if you have any questions about US laws let me know I will fill you in with what I know as facts here.

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#25 Old Jun 28th, 2006, 06:48 PM
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so from what ive been reading it said that R34's and R32's are the ones not being allowed in the US? so which means the R33's? will be some what easier? what all needs to be done to it to get it registered? and another question can you import a r32-34 as long as you register it as a show car or drag ? another question, is it hard to import a silvia, rx7, evo 8, 300z? or are these fairly easy to get registered? if so what needs to be done to register them? I live in WA btw
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I've been doing alot of research on importing an r33 as I am currently in Okinawa, Japan.. and get one for around 20k. It's v-spec and that deal probably won't last long. So far, what I've been able to find out, you can import r33's legally, as long as they're imported through an R&I. But that only takes care of the DOT and NHSTA's requirements. Next you have to worry about the EPA's requirements. I've found only one reference to a skyline imported to be OBDII compliant, and that was posted in Freshalloy.com. Total Hear-say! So to be federally legal, all of the above requirements have to be met. My question to you skylineimports, is can you guarantee federal legality on a 96' r33 v-spec? And can you show me documents to prove that other skylines you have brought in are federally legal??
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I've been doing alot of research on importing an r33 as I am currently in Okinawa, Japan.. and get one for around 20k. It's v-spec and that deal probably won't last long. So far, what I've been able to find out, you can import r33's legally, as long as they're imported through an R&I. But that only takes care of the DOT and NHSTA's requirements. Next you have to worry about the EPA's requirements. I've found only one reference to a skyline imported to be OBDII compliant, and that was posted in Freshalloy.com. Total Hear-say! So to be federally legal, all of the above requirements have to be met. My question to you skylineimports, is can you guarantee federal legality on a 96' r33 v-spec? And can you show me documents to prove that other skylines you have brought in are federally legal??
I would like to know the answer to this myself! So, can you show proof?
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Okay guys. Now before the flaming begins please at least read the post in its ENTIRETY first!

I have read countless posts on importing a Nissan Skyline to the US and I know that for all intents and purposes it is close to impossible to get a Fed legal Skyline here. I also know that Motorex is the ONLY place to get a FED legal Skyline and they are down for the count right now. All of this I know. I also know that you can import a Skyline as a Kit-Car or a show only car and get it here relatively easily. Of course however you have the obvious risk of having your car confiscated. I also realize that only an RI can import a car into the states. Once again ALL of this I know.

Now here is my issue:

I live in Atlanta, GA. In the state of GA it is very easy to register just about any vehicle as long as you have a title for the vehicle. That is the background.

Now what I am interested in is obtaining a STATE LEGAL Nissan Skyline 33-34GTR. I am not interested in obtaining a FED legal one. I just want to obtain a 33-34 Nissan Skyline GTR that I can register in the state of GA, even if I cant go register it in Cali and the sort. As stated above I realize that there is a risk to this, however it is one I am not too worried about. In the state of GA as long as your vehicle is registered legally the cops let you do damn near whatever you want. Also emissions are not going to be a problem for me as I will be registering it in a county without emission requirements. Essentially all that I need is a Nissan Skyline 33-34GTR and a title so that I can register it. That is the information on what I want to do. Now for my points/questions.

I will probably be financing a large portion of my vehicle through a finance company. Chances are it will be a specialty company that finances exotic/classic cars if I cant find a normal finance company that will finance a 95-2000 vehicle. I would assume, but want to make sure, that this would mean that I need to get the vehicle here in the US so that I can give the check to the seller. Or would it still be possible to import the vehicle and still have it financed?

If so, who are the best companies/RIís to get a STATE LEGAL 33-34GTR imported to me? I know there are countless scams online and companies that just take you for your money. I want to make sure that I am using a company with a reliable reputation. If the best/most cost effective way to get it done is as a kit car then that is fine as well. As I said, as long as I can get a title for it registering it is not a problem. I am just trying to figure out what the best way to do this is. Any specific company/RI recommendations would be appreciated. Be it Kit car or whole car.

Otherwise I would of course have to get one that is already in the states for finance purposes. What would be the best way to go about locating and obtaining one of these? From my research they are pretty hard to find. Most people are advertising MotRex cars and prices even if they may not really be Fed legal. I donít want to pay Motorex prices for one of these cars, especially when I only need it to be state legal.

Thank you very much for the help in advance guys. I know that the importation subject has been BEATEN to death however 99.9% of the topics are on FED legal vehicles not STATE legal vehicles. Feel free to offer any constructive comments and information. Anything that will help in my quest is greatly appreciated. On a side note, I have already located a number of specialty finance companies that finance exotic/classic cars, but if anyone has a specific finance company that will finance 95-2000 cars they would like to recommend I would greatly appreciate that as well, be it specialty or conventional. Once again thanks for the help, I truly do understand the difficulty and near impossibility of obtaining an FED legal Nissan Skyline 33-34GTR. However for the most part, as long as I can get one here to Atlanta with a title, I can easily make it STATE legal. Thanks.


-Sayajin

You spoke of making the car a "show car" I know that this involves no more than 2,500 miles a year on the car. But I am wondering how you would go about this, I searched the DMV in my state (New York) but couldnt come up with anything. I ask become I am very close to having a skyline imported and want to be able to drive the car as only a summer car, which I can assume I will not be putting more than that on the car in a year cause there are only 5 months of good weather around here I live. This option seems like the easiest for me, cause there is no way I can go through all the necessary work of having it as a legit street car.
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Hey I live on the westcoast of Canada and I import and drive skylines from Japan on a regular basis.In canada I can legally import cars 15 years and older. In USA it is 25 years.
Ive had 90 GTS-T Black 72,800km, 91 GTR Gun metallic Grey 89,000km 90 GTS-4(rare)Green 102,000kms. Some have been done out others bone stock. Anyway I would sell a GTS-T and a GTR. I get them and not from auctions from actual owners. Many other Japanese Imports are abundant but thers so so many skylines, they are starting to flood the streets up here.


Anyway I get them shipped CIF to Vancouver, then canada customs clears the federal test(emissions) then I have to pay for devanning(unloading). Then I have to pass a provincial inspection which has DOT compliance regulations. (Exactly the same as USA)which means I need new headlights, taillights, day time running lights, side markers, and sometimes tires. Glass always passes. Nothing else. Some people pay $$$$$ for conversion, though 95 accord lights will work.(theres cheaper ways to do it)
So I need to do some changes to make them legal as you can see. At first I would just temporary insure them just to have some fun.

Basically I have Skylines often and passed DOT regulations. Could anyone from the USA buy these DOT registered vehicles? Or would your govt say fuck off. Speaking of which there is huge U.S. pressure to change the rule here to 25 years not 15.
Im guessing that DOT approved Skyline's wont make it past themborder assholes.
I hope Im wrong. Just tell your Gov't to Fuck off or go to BC and buy a sick GODZILLA for cheaper than youd ever imagine.

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Hey I live on the westcoast of Canada and I import and drive skylines from Japan on a regular basis.In canada I can legally import cars 15 years and older. In USA it is 25 years.
Ive had 90 GTS-T Black 72,800km, 91 GTR Gun metallic Grey 89,000km 90 GTS-4(rare)Green 102,000kms. Some have been done out others bone stock. Anyway I would sell a GTS-T and a GTR. I get them and not from auctions from actual owners. Many other Japanese Imports are abundant but thers so so many skylines, they are starting to flood the streets up here.


Anyway I get them shipped CIF to Vancouver, then canada customs clears the federal test(emissions) then I have to pay for devanning(unloading). Then I have to pass a provincial inspection which has DOT compliance regulations. (Exactly the same as USA)which means I need new headlights, taillights, day time running lights, side markers, and sometimes tires. Glass always passes. Nothing else. Some people pay $$$$$ for conversion, though 95 accord lights will work.(theres cheaper ways to do it)
So I need to do some changes to make them legal as you can see. At first I would just temporary insure them just to have some fun.

Basically I have Skylines often and passed DOT regulations. Could anyone from the USA buy these DOT registered vehicles? Or would your govt say fuck off. Speaking of which there is huge U.S. pressure to change the rule here to 25 years not 15.
Im guessing that DOT approved Skyline's wont make it past themborder assholes.
I hope Im wrong. Just tell your Gov't to Fuck off or go to BC and buy a sick GODZILLA for cheaper than youd ever imagine.

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