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Old Jan 30th, 2006, 09:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Straight up legality concering Skylines in the US

I've been reading in many places about the possibility of attaining a perfectly legal Skyline (r32, r33, r34) in the States for years, yet there's so much speculation and people who talk about things that they might have heard or think they know with no actual basis.

So I ask a simple hypothetical question.

If your budget was not the main limiting factor (But lets try to stay in the realm of reality for an individual, don't say 'buy ten Skylines and do your own crash testing', etc) and wanted to obtain a 100% street legal Skyline from Japan today, could you do it?

The key thing here is that I'm looking for facts. That means no speculation and third hand stories. Also, I’m not looking for the grey areas of legality. I’m well aware of some of the, uh, more creative methods of bringing them in.

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Old Jan 30th, 2006, 02:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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supposely skyline revolutions/ 96skylineguy should be abel to do them, i haven't seen the paperwork, but he said he was approved for the conversion process.

http://www.nissanforums.com/showthread.php?t=110996
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Old Jan 30th, 2006, 02:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you want answers to questions or need legit information email me at Chris@skylinerevolution.com or come to the webpage www.skylinerevolution.com and I will answer all questions you have with all the legal information I have available.
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Old Feb 14th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The answer is no. The car must be 25 years or older. You did say legal. That means no kit-car. etc or other game playing. My 2 cents toyman

Ps I own a 89 gts-t type m 4 dr. License in bc plate in bc Ins. in bc. BC= Canada I can legal drive my car in the states. Adios
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Old Feb 14th, 2006, 11:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The answer is no. The car must be 25 years or older. You did say legal. That means no kit-car. etc or other game playing. My 2 cents toyman
It is possible to get a skyline over to the states. The car has to go through a series of legalization procedures.

I don't know about the 25 year old thing, I will look up on that.

Kit-cars are legal, but depends on what state your in and what the law is for Kit-cars.

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I thought the emissions and legality laws were different in canada from the states. I doubt you can legally drive the car over the border. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Toyman, are you a RI in canada? or just a owner of a skyline?
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 02:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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So can you only drive a kit car in states that allow designated use of a kit car within that particular state? And is that registered, titled, insured, etc. I live in California, and I'd like to look into the possibility. If not here, maybe register the car in Arizona/Nevada with less stricter laws.
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 05:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Twisted, I have driven my car into the states. I am not Ri. Just an owner.
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 06:37 AM   #8 (permalink)
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you can drive Kit cars anywhere, you will have a title and registration. When you import the Chasis and motor, you will have an HS-7 form and then it gets titled to the state you live in (i believe, Celm has a better knowledge of this). Skylineimports/revolutions/96skylineguy is supposily allowed to convert the cars to US legal.
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 08:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey Twist, No amount of voodoo can make my car legal. No airbags, Seatbelts do not pass federal standard. Windshield doesn't either. You might fix seatbelts, Noway on airbags or windshield. Revolution scares me. They are making all kinds of promises that when push comes to shove they are not going to be able to live with. Toyman
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 10:19 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Now as for the kit-car deal, I've read everywhere that they are only state legal but not necessarily federal legal. How does this affect someone that might use the Skyline as say a weekend car?
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 10:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies guys.

Now as for the kit-car deal, I've read everywhere that they are only state legal but not necessarily federal legal. How does this affect someone that might use the Skyline as say a weekend car?
Max, Kit car is a gamble. If you ever have an accident the guys in the windbreakers and black shiny shoes are going to be all over you like a cheap
suit. Skylines are a gamble period. Is something bad likely to happen no could it happen yes. Toyman

PS I like being on the darkside.
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 10:50 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Well I have been reading the forums and looking the input that people have been putting up in here and on other threads. Yet again I see alot of uneducated people make statements about things and I really dont understand where they get their information. I am very thorough about my research and usually dont make statements before I have the factual information to back them up. Anyone still doubting my business's true nature its your loss. Back to the subject at hand, KIT CARS! I have contacted the DMV and State patrol in Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Texas to verify the guidelines and regulations as to how cars are designated as Kit Cars and what is required. Well ANY SERIES of skylines can be brought into the country as a Kit car if the paperwork and the cars are appropriately done and shipped. All 4 states state patrol stated to me very directly (and I took my GTS to both the Oregon and Washington state patrol offices to show them the car) that if the placard and chassis stamp both matched with the same chassis number and have not been altered in any way they will certify the skylines as a Kit car. This means they can be titled and legal in the state that verifies the VIN/Chassis number. You can sell the cars and they can be moved to another state with the current states title but you will have to go through the process of reverifying the VIN/Chassis #'s in your state of residence. There are no restrictions on these cars, no mileage nothing and they are a ROAD LEGAL car. As stated the kit cars do not have to meet all the bullshit federal regulations because there are alot of Lamo's, Porsches, Ferrari's (sp) on the road that are designated kit cars and they are not going to change the laws or view the cars differently then they do those top end road machines. So if you wish to verify what I am saying contact your state patrol and once that is done contact your local DMV and they will tell you once they get the certification form from the state patrol the will issue a kit car title. I have personally checked 4 states and got the same answer all the way around. If you want a DOT/NHTSA certified car you can do that with 2 companies in the US right now, but the kit car is the less costly way to go and still be legal. All of those people out there stating the the cars will be confiscated and all kinds of bullshit when you get pulled over because the car isnt DOT/NHTSA certified you need again to be educated. I have been pulled over 13 times in my black GTS and not once have I even been cited for anything, and 2 times it was of exhibition of speed. So stop making people panic about that because its not true!!! Most of the times the cops are like "what the hell is this???" and let you off just because of the car LOL... this has happened to me! You can send me questions at chris@skylinerevolution.com or pm me here I check this daily and my email for the company about twice an hour.
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 11:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well I have been reading the forums and looking the input that people have been putting up in here and on other threads. Yet again I see alot of uneducated people make statements about things and I really dont understand where they get their information. I am very thorough about my research and usually dont make statements before I have the factual information to back them up. Anyone still doubting my business's true nature its your loss. Back to the subject at hand, KIT CARS! I have contacted the DMV and State patrol in Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and Texas to verify the guidelines and regulations as to how cars are designated as Kit Cars and what is required. Well ANY SERIES of skylines can be brought into the country as a Kit car if the paperwork and the cars are appropriately done and shipped. All 4 states state patrol stated to me very directly (and I took my GTS to both the Oregon and Washington state patrol offices to show them the car) that if the placard and chassis stamp both matched with the same chassis number and have not been altered in any way they will certify the skylines as a Kit car. This means they can be titled and legal in the state that verifies the VIN/Chassis number. You can sell the cars and they can be moved to another state with the current states title but you will have to go through the process of reverifying the VIN/Chassis #'s in your state of residence. There are no restrictions on these cars, no mileage nothing and they are a ROAD LEGAL car. As stated the kit cars do not have to meet all the bullshit federal regulations because there are alot of Lamo's, Porsches, Ferrari's (sp) on the road that are designated kit cars and they are not going to change the laws or view the cars differently then they do those top end road machines. So if you wish to verify what I am saying contact your state patrol and once that is done contact your local DMV and they will tell you once they get the certification form from the state patrol the will issue a kit car title. I have personally checked 4 states and got the same answer all the way around. If you want a DOT/NHTSA certified car you can do that with 2 companies in the US right now, but the kit car is the less costly way to go and still be legal. All of those people out there stating the the cars will be confiscated and all kinds of bullshit when you get pulled over because the car isnt DOT/NHTSA certified you need again to be educated. I have been pulled over 13 times in my black GTS and not once have I even been cited for anything, and 2 times it was of exhibition of speed. So stop making people panic about that because its not true!!! Most of the times the cops are like "what the hell is this???" and let you off just because of the car LOL... this has happened to me! You can send me questions at chris@skylinerevolution.com or pm me here I check this daily and my email for the company about twice an hour.

Chris, I think you are being a bit unresponsible. If I fellow what you are saying a kitcar skyline is like buying a pacer. No big deal. If you have an accident with a kitcar skyline there is a pretty good chance that you are going to end up under 2 tons of bricks. Before you dismiss me I had a kitcar Elise and speak from experience. adios toyman
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 11:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
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... if that's all it takes, couldn't you potentially do this with any JDM exclusive models? (maybe S15 Silvias or A31 Cefiros?)
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Old Feb 15th, 2006, 12:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Chris, I think you are being a bit unresponsible. If I fellow what you are saying a kitcar skyline is like buying a pacer. No big deal. If you have an accident with a kitcar skyline there is a pretty good chance that you are going to end up under 2 tons of bricks. Before you dismiss me I had a kitcar Elise and speak from experience. adios toyman
Could you share your experience with the Elise toyman, just for reference?

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