Very Confused: Skyline VS Infiniti? and Skyline Legalization?
this question has probably been asked so many times, but everytime i look for the answers,,i find about 10 or 12 of them. so can someone who knows what their talking about tell me
the whole story between the the Skylines and Infiniti's???
and the whole skyline legalization shit in US?? i hear they are legal except they gotta pass cetain shit, and i also heard their legal if they got imported a cetain way,???:S
Well for starters, Infiniti is Nissan's luxury brand (if for some reason you didn't know that already) and there are talks that the new GTR will be released under the infiniti nameplate. The current G35 sedan and coupe are actually called the Skyline in Japan as the skyline is actually more of a family/full size sports sedan in lower trim and then a full on street legal racecar in GTR trim. The new GTR Proto (whatever they decide to call it when its released) will be released in the US unlike the previous GTRs. Now, for the older GTR skylines, the previous generations of skylines R32,33,34 didn't meet US emission standards or some crash standards also if im not mistaken and they figured there wasn't a decent enough market for it in the US. For importing one, I saw some recent legislation saying only 96-98 R33s could be imported, in addition to some costly smog equiptment. Fortunately, there is a sneaky somewhat illegal but not terribly so way to import any skyline by seperating the engine and body and shipping them as seperate units. Another interesting way I heard of is someone bought a skyline and a maxima in japan and shipped them to mexico together. Once in mexico, he switched the VIN from the maxima to the skyline and then trashed the maxima and when he came back to the US he registered it as a maxima and said it was a show car with a body kit. As for smog gear, it should only affect people in california and other anal retentive cities with regards to smog. Where I live they dont even test emissions so i could be pouring out toxic waste and it wouldnt fail inspection. Hope this helped, if not, just say what else you wanted to know in your reply.
Another quick qustion man, ....if the infiniti g35 is the same as a skyline,,, then why are people to crazy about the skyline??? is it cause of the the righthand drive? look?? or does the infiniti not have the HICAS or ATTESA?
Another quick qustion man, ....if the infiniti g35 is the same as a skyline,,, then why are people to crazy about the skyline??? is it cause of the the righthand drive? look?? or does the infiniti not have the HICAS or ATTESA?
well, most people that like the skyline like the GTR, which is mechanically a totally different vehicle from the normal skyline like the G35 sold here. The GTR has the RB26 twin turbo and the HICAS and ATTESA plus the capability of getting 1000+ hp from various turbo upgrades etc. and even 80 HP over stock just from a ECU upgrade to a bone stock GTR. On the other hand, the US G35 and normal Japanese Skyline has a non-turbo VQ35 V6 so there are no ECU boost adding possibilities, but you can still go turbo etc and get probably close to 500HP with the kits available now. Basically, the regular Skyline and GTR are as different as a Sentra 1.8s and a SE-R Spec V or a more blatant analogy of a Corvette (skyline GTR) and the newest model Impala SS(regular skyline, except the regular skyline is RWD), thats really how different the two cars are in performance and tuning possibilites. So to conclude here, the skyline GTR everyone that saw 2Fast2Furious fantasizes about and the JGTC race car street version has never been released in the US or anything really close to it, so if thats the car you want you have to import it or wait for the new GTR Proto to begin production.
SC must not have any damn laws then because I have seen 3 Skylines this whole year with tags. I was going to stop and talk to one guy how he got his legal. The first 2 were R32s but the other one was an R34. I see them all the time on TV shows bein sooped up and shit. I even seen a right hand mini and I seen a 90 somethin Sunny GTi-R rollin around here but the Sunny didnt have a tag. So probably the thing you can do is register it in SC then move to your state and bang..you have an imported car. How in the hell do dune buggys get legalized and Skylines dont? Building a dune buggy is just like importing a car from japan.
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SC must not have any damn laws then because I have seen 3 Skylines this whole year with tags. I was going to stop and talk to one guy how he got his legal. The first 2 were R32s but the other one was an R34. I see them all the time on TV shows bein sooped up and shit. I even seen a right hand mini and I seen a 90 somethin Sunny GTi-R rollin around here but the Sunny didnt have a tag. So probably the thing you can do is register it in SC then move to your state and bang..you have an imported car. How in the hell do dune buggys get legalized and Skylines dont? Building a dune buggy is just like importing a car from japan.
Its all a matter of smog emission laws, which in california are fucking ridiculous. Where i live they dont even do smog checks, so i could probably get plates easy, plus im sure if you get it registered in some podunk little town they dont know any better anyway, they would just think it was a different type of maxima or something.
Well its kinda like this.... I live in a "Podunk" little town Nearly in B.F.E. I know all the shops and the inspection stations. So yea with alittle deceipt I could get one shipped in (Engine/trans seperate). Buy a Trashed Maxy or such with Vin#. Swap whats needed and get it Tagged, Insured, Title, etc...
BUT when the DMV decides to check on things ..Or somebody get Pissed off and reports it...GUESS WHAT???? Id be out ALOT of $$$$$ because their going to TAKE my car and DESTROY it.
Not worth the risk of Wasting...... What??? 100 Grand+..... For something that can be destroyed at the Whim of the Government.
But thats me... Of course Im sure that if I had a couple Million in the Bank I might try.....
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Well its kinda like this.... I live in a "Podunk" little town Nearly in B.F.E. I know all the shops and the inspection stations. So yea with alittle deceipt I could get one shipped in (Engine/trans seperate). Buy a Trashed Maxy or such with Vin#. Swap whats needed and get it Tagged, Insured, Title, etc...
BUT when the DMV decides to check on things ..Or somebody get Pissed off and reports it...GUESS WHAT???? Id be out ALOT of $$$$$ because their going to TAKE my car and DESTROY it.
Not worth the risk of Wasting...... What??? 100 Grand+..... For something that can be destroyed at the Whim of the Government.
But thats me... Of course Im sure that if I had a couple Million in the Bank I might try.....
whoah whoah whoah, you must be getting your information from the wrong places. Theyve never destroyed a car because it didnt pass smog checks, lmao. And another thing, especially an R32, is not going to cost 100 Grand. The only reason MotoRX charged near 100k is because of all the smog legal equiptment and paperwork to get it legal for california. Skylines cost new the equivalent of about 50k if that and if my friend is correct, Japan is imposing a new tax that increases with the age of the vehicle to try to get people to buy new cars, so there are just lots full of skylines and integra type R's that no one wants because of the ludicrous taxes. The WORST case scenario is you would get a ticket for not meeting emission standards, but if you really do live in BFE thats not even the law there. Most people that aren't seriously into cars aren't even aware what a skyline is much less that they aren't legal or even that they werent sold here in the first place. The hardest part would be getting one over here and getting all the pieces together because there is no mechanics that specialize in skylines as they arent sold here. Once it is in your driveway and running, you should be good to go.
whoah whoah whoah, you must be getting your information from the wrong places. Theyve never destroyed a car because it didnt pass smog checks, lmao. And another thing, especially an R32, is not going to cost 100 Grand. The only reason MotoRX charged near 100k is because of all the smog legal equiptment and paperwork to get it legal for california. Skylines cost new the equivalent of about 50k if that and if my friend is correct, Japan is imposing a new tax that increases with the age of the vehicle to try to get people to buy new cars, so there are just lots full of skylines and integra type R's that no one wants because of the ludicrous taxes. The WORST case scenario is you would get a ticket for not meeting emission standards, but if you really do live in BFE thats not even the law there. Most people that aren't seriously into cars aren't even aware what a skyline is much less that they aren't legal or even that they werent sold here in the first place. The hardest part would be getting one over here and getting all the pieces together because there is no mechanics that specialize in skylines as they arent sold here. Once it is in your driveway and running, you should be good to go.
First I said this as a VERY basic, general, idea. I wasn't giving trying to give Specifics... And after being aMechanic for the past 10yrs. I know they wont Destroy a vehicle for Smog reasons.... Thats not what the point I'm trying to make..
The point is that its ILLEGAL! Sure some might get away with it for awhile, But is it really worth risking that type of $$$. What happens WHEN you get stopped by a Cop who actually has an Idea of what the car is???? Or when you Piss of somebody in a Honduuuh, whos dropped 20g's in their ride... You piss them off and they report you??? Not ot mention that if they are ALREADY tightning restrictions on these cars, dont you think they'll be looking closer for people who are trying to get around the restrictions???
Unless you go through the COMPLETE process and follow the GOV's rules and regs Exactly, You WILL NOT have a LEGAL Skyline. And there are already stories out there of the GOV seizing illegal Skylines....
I'm done now....
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First I said this as a VERY basic, general, idea. I wasn't giving trying to give Specifics... And after being aMechanic for the past 10yrs. I know they wont Destroy a vehicle for Smog reasons.... Thats not what the point I'm trying to make..
The point is that its ILLEGAL! Sure some might get away with it for awhile, But is it really worth risking that type of $$$. What happens WHEN you get stopped by a Cop who actually has an Idea of what the car is???? Or when you Piss of somebody in a Honduuuh, whos dropped 20g's in their ride... You piss them off and they report you??? Not ot mention that if they are ALREADY tightning restrictions on these cars, dont you think they'll be looking closer for people who are trying to get around the restrictions???
Unless you go through the COMPLETE process and follow the GOV's rules and regs Exactly, You WILL NOT have a LEGAL Skyline. And there are already stories out there of the GOV seizing illegal Skylines....
I'm done now....
What i'm telling you is you very well might be able to get it legalized if it meets your local governments restrictions, which may not be bad at all. If cops come and say "thats not legal" then just say back "its a race car for track use, i dont drive it on the street" and they cant do jack. Plus, you gotta remember, its not like theres an anti-skyline task force going around the country to sniff out all the skylines, maybe in california where there is a huge car scene and they are really anal about smog you might get found out relatively quick, but out in the midwest or some other podunk place, cops probably aren't even aware they are illegal and probably wouldnt care if they were. I've been to places where ive seen people basically running open headers on the street and thats way more illegal, i think the skyline at least has some kind of catalytic converter. Plus, those stories you are hearing are probably about as real as when they said they will seize and crush your car for street racing in LA which is bullshit because that happened once when the police auctioned a seized car off and a private company bought it and had it crushed. Police cant just take your private property, thats called a dictatorship, and we dont have that here. The bottom line is, the penalties would be no worse than if you drove a race car on the street, which may be a couple hundred dollar fine if that, and thats only if you find a cop that knows what a skyline is, knows yours isnt legal, is a total dick and wants to ruin your day, and has some sort of documentation to prove it isnt legal. Since there are about 2 cops on any given day in the COUNTRY capable of this, i think youll be just fine. I mean, how else do you think we get all of these J Spec motors in the country? they arent smog legal in alot of areas, but people dont call the cops up and go "yeah, i just raced this dude on the street which is waaaay illegal and he has a Jspec motor that isnt smog legal here, so i think you should drop your homocide case and come over here and give him a ticket because he is a little bit over legal smog regulations." That just wont happen...
edit: if you been a mechanic for 10 yrs. dont you think you would be able to fit some added smog equiptment and change that stupid thing with the bumper not being good enough yourself? sure it may take awhile, but you could do it.
Last edited by neogeon : Dec 16th, 2005 at 01:49 PM.
ok, before you kids get out of control this is the real facts. If you bring over a car (rolling chasis) throw the motor back in and use a maxima vin, you dont just get your car inpounded, you go to jail. Its illegal. they impound your car and you are SOL and prolly getting an ASS raping. Secondly, importing a chasis and legalizing the car are two totally different things. You can bring over a car as a rolling chasis, and import the motor but still not be legalized. Only a Specific RI or company can do the legalizations and guess what, NO ONE can do it right now. Let me repeat, NO ONE. Now you can bring it over on a HS-7 form and have DOT paper work, but in the end, you aren't legal, but you do mean standards to have it a DD. you can pass emissions and inspection and get a State title. But you can't really sell the car and have to comply with many other standards and they do know where youre car is. Secondly, its not easy to bring the car over on Race only and Show forms. Its not a simple process like you guys think it is.
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ok, before you kids get out of control this is the real facts. If you bring over a car (rolling chasis) throw the motor back in and use a maxima vin, you dont just get your car inpounded, you go to jail. Its illegal. they impound your car and you are SOL and prolly getting an ASS raping. Secondly, importing a chasis and legalizing the car are two totally different things. You can bring over a car as a rolling chasis, and import the motor but still not be legalized. Only a Specific RI or company can do the legalizations and guess what, NO ONE can do it right now. Let me repeat, NO ONE. Now you can bring it over on a HS-7 form and have DOT paper work, but in the end, you aren't legal, but you do mean standards to have it a DD. you can pass emissions and inspection and get a State title. But you can't really sell the car and have to comply with many other standards and they do know where youre car is. Secondly, its not easy to bring the car over on Race only and Show forms. Its not a simple process like you guys think it is.
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That is what I was trying to say in simple terminology. Its ILLEGAL anyway you look at it and your Gonna get SCREWED one way or another if you do it.
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