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Old Dec 20th, 2005, 05:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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So i guess that legislation doesnt hold that much water then. Theres always a way with this kind of stuff, i mean, theres always a point where a car is no longer considered a car and its only parts or even scrap metal, you dont see VIN numbers on your toaster made from scrap metal do you? no, so there must be a certain point of dissasembly where it becomes parts that you build yourself into a car and then its no different from that ferrari kit car you made from a fiero or a custom tubing chassis you made and put a body on it. PSULemon, you act like you own the universe and know everything but what you dont know is how much redtape there is in the US government and how "innocent until proven guilty" keeps most laws from being enforced. If the government wont pay to fix streets, why the hell would they waste their time to prevent cars from entering the US? Even if that bill does exist, people are lazy (government) and getting around it is only a matter of time to figure out a loophole.
Yes, i know the loopholes i have told you them many times, actually read the shit i post. I know the govt wont always get you, but dont tell peole how to do illegal stuff on this forum, its against the rules. Yes we all know teh Vin trick, but its for retards that want to risk inprisionment. I do not know everything, but have researched this topic for 3 years. Oh and the innocence is true, but if you cop gets suspicious, he can get your car impounded if you dont show proper paperwork.





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how is it illegal man because i live in alabama and i work for skyline america and we git in skylines and silvias all the time amtter of fact i have a skyline for sale right now its a r34 gtr vspec
If youre skylines and silvias are street legal, produce the paperwork. I DOT approval, the NHTSA paperwork, the HS-7 form. The fact that you prolly bring them in as a rolling chasis doesn't make the US legal, but as a chasis car you can make the able to be a DD. That has been established many times. I told everyone how to do it. There is a big difference btw the two. When you bring over a car on a HS-7 form you can not sell the car, give the car as a gift or anything else pretty much.
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Old Dec 20th, 2005, 05:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yes, i know the loopholes i have told you them many times, actually read the shit i post. I know the govt wont always get you, but dont tell peole how to do illegal stuff on this forum, its against the rules. Yes we all know teh Vin trick, but its for retards that want to risk inprisionment. I do not know everything, but have researched this topic for 3 years. Oh and the innocence is true, but if you cop gets suspicious, he can get your car impounded if you dont show proper paperwork.






If youre skylines and silvias are street legal, produce the paperwork. I DOT approval, the NHTSA paperwork, the HS-7 form. The fact that you prolly bring them in as a rolling chasis doesn't make the US legal, but as a chasis car you can make the able to be a DD. That has been established many times. I told everyone how to do it. There is a big difference btw the two. When you bring over a car on a HS-7 form you can not sell the car, give the car as a gift or anything else pretty much.
all of our nissan skylines and silvias come into the u.s as a complete vehicle and my boss has all the cars run through customs and all the legal paperwork on every car if there is sumthin that needs to be altered to u.s specs we alter them and have customs and epa go through it all of our cars are legal with all paper work and titles
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Old Dec 20th, 2005, 05:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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all of our nissan skylines and silvias come into the u.s as a complete vehicle and my boss has all the cars run through customs and all the legal paperwork on every car if there is sumthin that needs to be altered to u.s specs we alter them and have customs and epa go through it all of our cars are legal with all paper work and titles
photo copy and scan please, i call BS until we see it. No offense towards you or your boss, Companies and people alike claim this all the time and can't provide the paper work.
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Old Dec 20th, 2005, 06:03 PM   #34 (permalink)
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photo copy and scan please, i call BS until we see it. No offense towards you or your boss, Companies and people alike claim this all the time and can't provide the paper work.
i personally cant provide the paperwork u would have to contact my boss about that i do have the pictures of the silvia i have for sale. and my r34 that is for sale is on the frontpage on www.zenmotorsports.com
to contatc my boss got to www.skylineamerica.net
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Old Dec 21st, 2005, 04:10 AM   #35 (permalink)
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From your Skyline America site:
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IN THE EFFORT to clarify the services and procedures we follow at SKYLINE AMERICA please study the below Overview:

2) I do not dismantle or do anything illegal in the importation of "off-road" only vehicles. I merely import them, and obtain a US Title. The only "street-legal" skyline which I can acquire is the 1995 R33 GTR. Everything else, including all other Skylines, must be done "off-road".
Now how does that not sound like a BS "US Legal" import.

So "your" $53K R34 is not road legal, that's a very expensive lawn display.
And the reason I say "your," R34, is because you say you own it. But when asked for scans of "your" paperwork, you refer someone to your "boss." Who has a Hotmail account for business?! And you also refer them to a site that has pics of "your" R34, which are pics from the Japanese Auction House.

Yeah, "your" info is screaming BS!
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From your Skyline America site:

Now how does that not sound like a BS "US Legal" import.

So "your" $53K R34 is not road legal, that's a very .
And the reason I say "your," R34, is because you say you own it. But when asked for scans of "your" paperwork, you refer someone to your "boss." Who has a Hotmail account for business?! And you also refer them to a site that has pics of "your" R34, which are pics from the Japanese Auction House.

Yeah, "your" info is screaming BS!
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That is why i call so much... honestly guys, if you can't back your shit up with proof stop talking. Your skylines aren't legal. We only had one way to make the US street legal, but now we can only bring them in as a rolling chasis. End of story.
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ok what is cosidered a rolling chassis?
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Old Dec 24th, 2005, 02:23 AM   #38 (permalink)
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The other side of this that hasn't been mentioned is where local and state authorities come into play. The definition of a "kit car" varies wildly from state to state.

Furthermore, the education of BMV workers and law enforcement varies wildly in regards to these issues. In Ohio, our BMV workers have little to no knowledge of even USDM cars, while, in contrast, California educates its personnel on these issues throroughly. Also, remember that the vast majority of shipping containers enter and leave this country uninspected. For the most part, your container holds whatever you say it holds. Ports in the midwest are much less likely to worry about this shit than those on the coasts.
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The other side of this that hasn't been mentioned is where local and state authorities come into play. The definition of a "kit car" varies wildly from state to state.

Furthermore, the education of BMV workers and law enforcement varies wildly in regards to these issues. In Ohio, our BMV workers have little to no knowledge of even USDM cars, while, in contrast, California educates its personnel on these issues throroughly. Also, remember that the vast majority of shipping containers enter and leave this country uninspected. For the most part, your container holds whatever you say it holds. Ports in the midwest are much less likely to worry about this shit than those on the coasts.
good point, thats what i've been trying to say, people outside of california and big cities likely will have no idea what a skyline is or if its legal or not in the US. Also, an R32 is very sleeper and could easily be mistaken for a maxima or something and an R33 could be mistaken for a chevy impala SS (the new ones) with a bodykit. I know this because every now and then i see an impala SS at the right angle and im like "dude! skyline!, no wait, domestic lame rip off, nevermind"
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good point, thats what i've been trying to say, people outside of california and big cities likely will have no idea what a skyline is or if its legal or not in the US. Also, an R32 is very sleeper and could easily be mistaken for a maxima or something and an R33 could be mistaken for a chevy impala SS (the new ones) with a bodykit. I know this because every now and then i see an impala SS at the right angle and im like "dude! skyline!, no wait, domestic lame rip off, nevermind"
This is always the case. yes i know a lot of people dont know what a skyline is, but people have been caught, just based on the fact that its a RHD car. Even if you dont do anything wrong, if a cop gets suspicious of that being legal, he will pull you over and ask for paperwork. Now if you say its a Max and lets say that is his DD and he calls BS, you could be in trouble. I am saying dont preach that on the forums, bc its illegal. I told you how to bring it over. People like Celm have more extensive knowledge as he owns a GTIR. You cut the whole car, engine, tranny, transaxel,s lights, seates and pretty much eveything bare, and it will be considered a rolling chasis. Then import the other stuff in another box, and re assemble in the States.
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i love what sean morris wrote here.its on fresh alloys:


The DOT wont do anything about the illegal people.

Its EASIER for them to sit at their desks and go after people trying to do it legitimately.

What a total of about 100 cars over 6 years.

I have been giving them information, pictures, etc since 1999 and they do nothing.

Quote me on that....

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This tells you how small of an issue grey market cars are to the DOT,they do have other issues that *cough* fill there pockets with $ *cough* they attend to
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