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Old Dec 27th, 2006, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Broken Timing Chain, Chance of bent valves?

I have a 1998 Altima that broke a timing chain, the lower chain. It's pretty "balled up" according to the guy that's looking at it. He's concerned that if we fix the timing chain ($700), the valves will be bent or damaged. To do the timing chain AND valves/heads, we're looking at $2500, or the price of a used engine.

A 98 Altima is worth $700 repair. I don't think it's worth $2500+. My question to the group is, based on your experiences, what are the chances that the timing chain is all that's broken? Is it likely valves are trashed (or worse, pistons)? I know in my old days working on Chevy's in the 60's, this was never a problem of the valve hitting the piston when a timing chain broke, but this guy says this "interference engine" it's possible.

So what do think? Worth a $700 gamble?
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Old Dec 27th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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quit worrying about fixing the head, the valves - everything. replace the engine. its much cheaper all the way around.
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Old Dec 27th, 2006, 07:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with AsleepAltima, you would be better off finding a good used engine. To answer your question, The KA24DE is an interference engine. Depending on how hard the engine was turning, you can count on ,at least ,bent valves.
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Old Dec 28th, 2006, 11:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's a matter of economics. If I just have to replace the timing chain it's about $700. If I have to also do valves/head work, it's up to about $2500. A used motor is also about $2500 (flat rate book shows 100 hours for the exchange!).

If it's working fine, the best I can get for it is about $3000. So if I put in $2500, and sell it for top dollar, I net about $500. If I can get $1000 for it broken, I'd be ahead just to sell ot off if possible. But bottom line is I can't see putting $2500 into a 9 year old car with 112,000 miles on it.
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thats why you replace the engine. an engine can be had for about 450 if you look in the right places. have it installed for a couple more hundred and youre back on the road - without spending 2500...
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Old Dec 28th, 2006, 02:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have two quotes for replacing the engine. Both are in the $2500 range. Like I said, flat rate book shows 100 hours labor.
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Old Dec 29th, 2006, 12:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Does 2500 sound too high for a used engine installed? That's what I'm hearing around here, but maybe that's too much, and I should keep looking?
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Does 2500 sound too high for a used engine installed? That's what I'm hearing around here, but maybe that's too much, and I should keep looking?
That's too much for just installation; I would say more in the 1000 range for it to be dropped in!
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thats way too much. i know in phx where im from you can get an engine swapped for less than 300.
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