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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 02:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Light Problems

1997 Nissan SE 4x4 5-speed

With my headlights turned off I have no brake lights.

If I turn headlights on, my brake lights are stuck on.

Checked fuse, its good, also changed brake light switch. Still having same issues

I'm going to try and trace the wires tomorrow for a short.

Turn Signals, reverse lights, hazards all work fine.

Any other suggestions?
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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Check your bulbs and your rear grounds. Look for bad bulbs, wrong bulbs, or out of place bulbs.
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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 05:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Also noticed the 3rd brake light up top on the cab was completely out. All the bulbs in that are blown.

Ran outta sun light. Try again tomorrow
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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Also noticed the 3rd brake light up top on the cab was completely out. All the bulbs in that are blown.

Ran outta sun light. Try again tomorrow
Sounds like you got some wires crossed and headlights and brakes are on the same circuit. Did you do any electrical work on your car before this happened, install some equipment or make any changes to your wiring??
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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 06:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sounds like you got some wires crossed and headlights and brakes are on the same circuit. Did you do any electrical work on your car before this happened, install some equipment or make any changes to your wiring??
I bought the truck a month ago. I haven't done anything to it. I honestly don't know if the brake lights ever worked since I got it. I just happened to notice lights were out when switching the cars around in the driveway the other night.

I sent an email to the previous owner to see if he had any issues with it. haven't heard back

The previous owner did put in a CD player, I'm going to pull that out tomorrow and see how he hooked that up.
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Old Nov 7th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Try pulling out the fuse for the headlights and then turn the headlight switch on and see what happens to your brake lights???
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 09:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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head light switch...
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 11:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Try pulling out the fuse for the headlights and then turn the headlight switch on and see what happens to your brake lights???
I pulled those fuses and the brake lights still stayed stuck on.
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 11:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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head light switch...

What is the other switch mounted on the brake pedal next to the brake light switch? I got a 5-speed manual.

Went to auto parts store no one can find it on their microfiche, I'm guessing either headlight or neutral switch?
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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the switch on the brake pedal is the brake light switch.. if it is not in contact with the brake mount then the light will stay on....
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the switch on the brake pedal is the brake light switch.. if it is not in contact with the brake mount then the light will stay on....
Yea I got a new brake switch its pushed in all the way.

There are 2 switches mounted on the brake right next to each other. The blue/white one is the brake light switch. There is also a brown/black switch that I'm not sure what its for.
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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probably the clutch inhibitor switch..
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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did you get a chance to check the wiring on the CD player?
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Old Nov 8th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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did you get a chance to check the wiring on the CD player?
yes it was put in using the wiring harness, nothing spliced or out of whack.

I unplugged CD player and turned headlights on and the brake lights still stuck on.


should the bulb inside the yellow box that I marked be the one that gets brighter when I hit brakes? That one and the bigger tail light bulb both on


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Old Nov 9th, 2009, 08:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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try pressing the brake light switch on and off to see if you can get an effect..

have u or has ne 1 put a trailor harnes on it?

check the bulbs again to see if they are the proper bulbs..

a wrong bulb can transfer power to an adjacent system...
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