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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 01:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2006 1.8 Sentra Bluff?

Is my friend's 2006 Sentra 1.8 Standard Automatic faster than my 1994 2 dr Sentra 1.6L Manual I/E? If we were at the track, would I have a chance to beat him with a launch advantage at 3k rpm? He thinks his car is quick and that my 11 yr old would be left behind in the dust...
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is my friend's 2006 Sentra 1.8 Standard Automatic faster than my 1994 2 dr Sentra 1.6L Manual I/E? If we were at the track, would I have a chance to beat him with a launch advantage at 3k rpm? He thinks his car is quick and that my 11 yr old would be left behind in the dust...

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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 02:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Its hard to tell... if you read up on the specs of the stock 2006 compared to the 94 with give or take 10 hp and 10 ft/lb torque (guesstimate at best) more than stock, it looks like this:

2006:
QG18DE
Curb Weight 2625 lbs
Horsepower: 126 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 129 ft-lbs @ 2400 rpm

1994:
GA16DE
Curb Weight 2324 lbs
Horsepower: 110 hp @ 6000 rpm (+10 hp) = 120 ft/lb
Torque: 108 ft-lbs @ 4000 rpm (+10 ft/lb) = 118 ft/lb

If my guesstimates are close, it looks like it would be a very even match... it might just come down to who was fastest off of the line.
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its hard to tell... if you read up on the specs of the stock 2006 compared to the 94 with give or take 10 hp and 10 ft/lb torque (guesstimate at best) more than stock, it looks like this:

2006:
QG18DE
Curb Weight 2625 lbs
Horsepower: 126 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 129 ft-lbs @ 2400 rpm

1994:
GA16DE
Curb Weight 2324 lbs
Horsepower: 110 hp @ 6000 rpm (+10 hp) = 120 ft/lb
Torque: 108 ft-lbs @ 4000 rpm (+10 ft/lb) = 118 ft/lb

If my guesstimates are close, it looks like it would be a very even match... it might just come down to who was fastest off of the line.
Thanks for the info. Yeah, those numbers look pretty even considering horsepower/weight ratio. I guess it all matters now on the take-off and my manual shifting. I'm just trying to test my GA16's ability against other economy cars before the VE swap.
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 02:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Just my guess but I think the weight of your car compared to his will give you a slight advantage as well. 300lbs is a good difference.
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 07:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I guess on that kind of level it could matter on the weight of the drivers too... I would be interested in hearing about the outcome
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Old Nov 4th, 2005, 08:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Completely strip your interior except for the dash and drivers seat.......just for good measure.


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Old Nov 6th, 2005, 01:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Completely strip your interior except for the dash and drivers seat.......just for good measure.


Good luck!
So far, I took out my dual 12' subs, spare tire, cardboard, and carpet.
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Old Nov 6th, 2005, 01:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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You should be able to beat him easily. Take out all extra weight. I was faster than my friends b15 w/ sr20 auto by more than a second. We both only had intake/exhaust at the time. The auto is going to really hold him back. Have you ever ran the 1/4 mile before?
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Old Nov 9th, 2005, 02:16 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You should be able to beat him easily. Take out all extra weight. I was faster than my friends b15 w/ sr20 auto by more than a second. We both only had intake/exhaust at the time. The auto is going to really hold him back. Have you ever ran the 1/4 mile before?
B15's have sr20s? I thought it was a Q something. and no, never ran 1/4 mile, but I did calculate my 0-60 to be 8.something secs.
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Old Nov 9th, 2005, 02:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The 00-01 B15 Sentra SE have the SR20DE. The 02-?? B15 Sentra SE-R's have the QR25DE. The 00-?? B15 Sentra XE,GXE,etc have the QG18DE.

Anyway, I checked out your cardomian site. Thats a nice looking B13. My first car was a 92 XE. I've always liked the shape of that generation. Very clean looking ya know?

I also notice you listed "kills" on your website. If you're gonna race this guy, I recommend taking it to the local track. It's a safe way to test the limits of the car and driver without causing danger to yourself & others or getting arrested!

Be safe and have fun!
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Old Nov 9th, 2005, 06:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Are those carbon fiber petals? If so you will win... Atleast in the style department.
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Old Nov 9th, 2005, 10:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The 00-01 B15 Sentra SE have the SR20DE. The 02-?? B15 Sentra SE-R's have the QR25DE. The 00-?? B15 Sentra XE,GXE,etc have the QG18DE.

Anyway, I checked out your cardomian site. Thats a nice looking B13. My first car was a 92 XE. I've always liked the shape of that generation. Very clean looking ya know?

I also notice you listed "kills" on your website. If you're gonna race this guy, I track. It's a safe way to test the limits of the car and driver without causing danger to yrecommend taking it to the local ourself & others or getting arrested!

Be safe and have fun!
This 1.8 B15 is a 2006 though. Yeah about that, those kills are no longer in effect. The team is in college now and us 3 are too busy to do anything illegal like that. Those were high school days. I know the consequences and dangers. Thanks though.
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