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Old Mar 27th, 2003, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What can I do to an 86 200sx?

Any engine swaps? Easy turbo bolt ons? Ideas anyone? Be great if a SR20det would bolt in I could settle on a CA18det as well though
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Old Mar 27th, 2003, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Throw in a VG30E or VG30DE, I had an '87 with a VG30E. Still cry when I look at the pics...shoulda never sold it.
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Old Mar 27th, 2003, 08:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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your into the wrong section buddy... 200sx in this thread are B14 !!.... yours an S12... from the great RWD Sylvia familys !!....

you may try into the S forums where there is 240sx,200sx and such or you may try this link....

www.s12.org... i might be wrong here... ill post it tommorow morning, im at the job so.....

Easiest swap there is the Ca18det from the S13 wich share most of the chassis... the Vg30 will be a pain in the A$$ to put in there if you dont have a donor because of engine mount, wiring ect... the Ca18det will bolt right into it.. plus will be less messup with your wiring...
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Talk to tsi200sx, he has an S12 and has a site devoted to them.
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heres the link ....
http://200sx.computica.net/

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Old Mar 29th, 2003, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hmm...that site doesnt have anything there really.

So a CA18det would bolt right into the car? I'd assume this would mean a new transmission, ecu, ect, but other than that, thats it? Motor mounts would work for instance? That would be great if I could make this little beater into a nice sleeper for cheap
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I really don't think you want to try to swap in a CA18DE when you can swap in a VG30DE or DETT. Check out Tsi200sx's webpage. It is based extensively on the S12
http://www.anglefire.com/80s/tsi200sx/
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If the links won't work, look him up in the menber's directory and click on the "www" icon. That will take you to his page.
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Old Mar 30th, 2003, 11:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would swap in a CA18DET or an SR20DET due to the simple fact your power plant is a CA20e if it's not turbo and if it is turbo then you got a CA18 (T). You can also swap in VG30E as the car comes with one in 1988, but the CA18DET puts out more power. AS faras VG30DETT, that's absurd for that car. There's no room in the 300ZX TT and the 200sx is alot slimmer in the engine bay so, go figure. With the CA18DET, you'll only need the motor, wiring harness and computer as it is direct bolt-up to your existing tranny. And BTW, the CA18DET was introduced in the S12 sylvia and gazelles in Japan.
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Old Mar 31st, 2003, 08:18 AM   #9 (permalink)
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AS faras VG30DETT, that's absurd for that car. There's no room in the 300ZX TT and the 200sx is alot slimmer in the engine bay so, go figure.
Hey, one company crammed a RB26DETT into a S14 Silvia.
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That's what these forum are for, to learn from each other.
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Old Mar 31st, 2003, 01:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Whats involved in the SR20det swap? I've heard GREAT things about that motor Will it bolt into the car using stock mounts? If not, is there a company that makes a bolt in setup?

Also, how cheap can one pick up the ca18det + ecu + wiring harness?

Which ones a better choice? Ca18det, or SR20det? I havent heard too much about the CA18det, so I'm guessing the SR20?
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Unfortunately, the CA18DET engine is the forgotten work horse that paved the way for the SR20. Anyway, an SR20 would fit in that car with little to no modifications to the mounts see that it can house a CA18DET with no mount mods. A stock CA18DET produces about 175hp and a stock SR20 produces 205hp. You can have a CA18DET complete swap for about $1000-$1500 and an SR20DET set up would cost you anywhere between $1700-$2500. IMO the CA18DET is a better motor in terms of design, performance and seviceability. The SR20 produces good torque and power and because it's a bigger motor as well as newer motor, most people take a liking to it. My stock (internally) CA18DET put out 312whp so do the math at the crank! The CA18 is a rev happy engine kinda similar to the characteristics of the honda's B-series motors. The SR can rev, but it has limitations in its valve-train that forbids from getting to cute with throttle. I can go on and on, but there's plenty of info on the internet about comparisons between the two motors.
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Old Mar 31st, 2003, 09:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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hmm...a ca18det is souunding pretty nice.... 312rwhp...thats plenty for this car..
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Have fun trying to control that kinda power! My next goal is 500whp CA18DET with stock bore=1809cc's. It will be done and very soon as well. Good luck on your decision, I'm moving on up
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Old Apr 24th, 2003, 09:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ok guys, I'm aboug to buy a '86 200 SX Xe with a busted 2.0L engine in it. I'm reading about the 1.8det engines and getting quite excited about its potential. Seriously, what kind of money would I be putting into it to get a CA18DET to produce like 250whp? I'm doing this all myself (with family help of course?)

where do I go, the sites are limited, the knowledge base is sparse, and I think this car is an ultimate sleeper and would make an awesome project car... new stuff costs soo much. Man, I cant wait to start this project. Anyone interested in starting a club (if I cant find one to join) for the 85-89 200SX RWD? Email me at jeremy@pureedesign.com

I had no idea this old car can do that!

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