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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 09:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I have to agree with Wes on pricing for a swap. The cheapest I have ever heard a complete swap going in for was 2490 and the guy did it himself, ex-Nissan mechanic. The most expensive I've heard is 4700, this was going from a 1.6L to a sr20det, alot of unexpected stuff and some parts were damaged on the install and had to be replaced. A shop did this one.

IMHO, going from a 1.6 to sr20det is NOT going to be a cheap process unless you can do 95% of the work yourself.
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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 10:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Let's put it this way, I'll be swapping an SR20DET into my SE-R next year, and It's going to cost me $2600 to do it myself. That's not including a new clutch and lots of other things that I plan to do. So figure that another $1K in parts alone to to do the swap into a GA16DE powered car. Then you have to figure labor for anything that you don't do yourself.

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ok lets say that it costs like an hour for a mechanic.. or more.. whatever.. anyways.. how long has it taken you people to swap your sr20 into a b14???? how long will it take
An hour?! ROTFLMAO!!!! Try 10 or more. It takes most guys a weekend to do. JGY does these swaps all the time and I bet it still takes him 5+ hours.

I used to take the stand most everyone else has, do an SR20DET swap, but the hotshot turbo will be cheaper without a doubt and you'll have comparable HP from what I understand. Ask Mike Young about it, he's convinced me that the hotshot is a very cost effective alternative to an SR20DET swap. What I decided to do was neither, I sold my GA16DE powered car and bought an SE-R to save myself $1K in parts, a shitload of hassle and it upgraded me to 4 wheel discs, rear spoiler, fog lamps, 14" wheels, Tached gauge cluster, nicer interior, etc. all the things my SE-R has over my XE. Granted the SE-R ended up costing me $1600 after I sold the XE and it needs a clutch, crank seal and the lifters are noisy, but I still don't regret it.

When swapping to an SR20 you need a tranny, shafts, a motor mount, radiator hoses, PS hoses, ECU, Engine harness. Also consider the difference between the electrical systems of an SR20DE powered car versus a GA16DE powered car. Swapping into a GA16DE car left me uneasy about it so I didn't do it. But that's just how I feel about it. I can see that it's a tougher decision for you guys who've put alot into your GA16DE powered cars. If I were in that boat, I'd do the hotshot turbo. Either case you're going to need to do a clutch.
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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 11:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 04:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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turbo kit for ga costs 3G alone, right? plus you need drive train parts... i have friends that told me you can get a sr20det engine (i think complete) for close to 1000. plus install on both, of course. i wanna go w/ the swap. both are illegal tho. (on the streets anyway)
u dont need drive train parts right away. a good driver can continue using the stock clutch, if not driven that hard. but yes eventually a stronger clutch and some sort of limited slip would really help.
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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 05:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The guy on my team did the 1.6 to DE-T swap. He did all the wrenching himself and it was still $4000.00

DE-T
axels
tranny
motor mounts
ecu reprogrammed
numerouse other things...

It is pretty expensive...
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Old Oct 31st, 2002, 06:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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yup...its all the little things that add up
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go with the A option, turbo the GA
u can always take off the turbo and resell it and get at least some of the money back in the future
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