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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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94 Nissan Sentra (Won't Start)

I recently did a tune up on my car: new plugs, belts, wires, fuel filter, etc., I was on my way to the gym on Monday morning and the car just quit on me. I tried starting it up again and it just turns and turns but never starts up completely. I was wondering if this a result of my timing belt/chain or fuel pump or something else. Please advise...

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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 10:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I recently did a tune up on my car: new plugs, belts, wires, fuel filter, etc., I was on my way to the gym on Monday morning and the car just quit on me. I tried starting it up again and it just turns and turns but never starts up completely. I was wondering if this a result of my timing belt/chain or fuel pump or something else. Please advise...

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look at the plugs. did you put the fuel filter in correctly? but your best bet is to look at your plugs if there dry or white your not getting the fuel. if its black and wet, plus smells like fuel then check your plug wires rotor and cap. but untill you check the plugs its hard to tell whats wrong.
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 10:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re:94 Nissan Sentra(Won't Start)

Thanks for the quick reply...

I was also wondering, do you think it could have something to do with the timing belt/chain or how can you tell if it's gone bad or broken without pulling the engine out to get to the cover?

Also, if the plugs are dry, it's safe to go ahead with the fuel pump replacement? I did the tune-up about a month ago.

Thanks for all of your feedback!!
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 10:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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did the problems start soon after you did this tune up? if so, check your work again......r u sure u plugged in the plugs for the sparg plugs in the correct order to the distributor? did u gap the spark plugs correctly? if the problem has occured before, check the starter.
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 11:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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did the problems start soon after you did this tune up? if so, check your work again......r u sure u plugged in the plugs for the sparg plugs in the correct order to the distributor? did u gap the spark plugs correctly? if the problem has occured before, check the starter.


No. The car has never really quit on me. There were times that I would start it up in the morning and drive about 20 feet from my house and it would seem like it was going to cut off... Sometime it would, and I would put it in neutral, crank it again and drive off with no problem.
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No. The car has never really quit on me. There were times that I would start it up in the morning and drive about 20 feet from my house and it would seem like it was going to cut off... Sometime it would, and I would put it in neutral, crank it again and drive off with no problem.

its your fuel filter i had the same proplem untill i changed it, but if you changed it then make sure it is on correctly. make sure you didnt put the fuel lines on backwards on the fuel filter. my advice would be to swich them around and see what happens BUT im not sure if thats the best advise so do at your own risk.

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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 02:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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its your fuel filter i had the same proplem untill i changed it, but if you changed it then make sure it is on correctly. make sure you didnt put the fuel lines on backwards on the fuel filter. my advice would be to swich them around and see what happens BUT im not sure if thats the best advise so do at your own risk.

So you think it's the fuel filter? I replace it and made sure the lines and everthing was cool. Why would it work for a while and then just stop? Could it be the fuel pump?

How would I know if it's the timing belt/chain? What kind of timing does this particular model engine (GA16DE 1.6L Engine) have? A belt or chain?

Thanks for all of your help....
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 08:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Chain, you'll know if it broke. If there's any doubt then it didn't. Plus it makes a lot of noise for a long time when the chain tensioners are on their way out, which is really the only way that a chain can break (bad tenseioners neglected.) It's an interference engine so if the timing chain breaks everything gets messed up. Someone that knows for sure want to post what happens to an interference engine if the chain breaks?

Assuming that distributor stuff and wires are fine since you just did a tune up, it sounds to me like you're not getting fuel consistently. I'd go with your thought on a fuel pump problem. Search the boards for how to check it. Might be worth swapping in a new fuel filter just to be sure nothing crudded it up like a tank of shitty gas or something, and verify that it's in the right way (flange on top, discharge side I believe.)
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Old Sep 30th, 2004, 09:28 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Chain, you'll know if it broke. If there's any doubt then it didn't. Plus it makes a lot of noise for a long time when the chain tensioners are on their way out, which is really the only way that a chain can break (bad tenseioners neglected.) It's an interference engine so if the timing chain breaks everything gets messed up. Someone that knows for sure want to post what happens to an interference engine if the chain breaks?

Assuming that distributor stuff and wires are fine since you just did a tune up, it sounds to me like you're not getting fuel consistently. I'd go with your thought on a fuel pump problem. Search the boards for how to check it. Might be worth swapping in a new fuel filter just to be sure nothing crudded it up like a tank of shitty gas or something, and verify that it's in the right way (flange on top, discharge side I believe.)

Thanks for your info man!! I'm going to look at that this evening. I just couldn't distinuish between it being a chain issue or the fuel pump. From your car description, it sound like you have the same Engine that I have. Have you had this problem before? Also, what forums can I look at to see how to check for a Bad Fuel Pump?
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Ignition timing

Anybody please help. What is the best ignition timing for Nissan Sentra 1.6 Super Saloon model 1992.


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Anybody please help. What is the best ignition timing for Nissan Sentra 1.6 Super Saloon model 1992.

Timing
Year(s) Country / State Manual Transaxle Automatic Transaxle MPG Model
1982 United States 2° ATDC 6° ATDC 2° ATDC
1982 Canada 4° ATDC 6° ATDC 2° ATDC
1983 United States 5° ATDC 5° ATDC 2° ATDC
1983 Canada 5° ATDC 5° ATDC
1984 - 1985 California 5° ATDC 5° ATDC
1984 - 1985 Other 49 States 15° BTDC 8° BTDC
1984 - 1985 Canada 5° ATDC 5° ATDC
1986 California 5° ATDC 5° ATDC
1986 Other 49 States 10° BTDC 10° BTDC
1986 Canada 5° ATDC 5° ATDC
1987 - 1990 All 7° BTDC
1991 - 1994 All 10° BTDC
1995 - 1999 All 8° BTDC
Idle Speed
1982 All 700 RPM 600 RPM 700 RPM
1983 - 1984 All 750 RPM 650 RPM 700 RPM
1985 - 1986 All 800 RPM 650 RPM
1987 All 800 RPM 700 RPM
1988 - 1989 All 800 RPM 700 RPM
1990 All 800 RPM 900 RPM
1991 - 1994 United States 650 RPM 800 RPM
1991 - 1994 Canada 750 RPM 800 RPM
1995 - 1999 All 625 RPM 725 RPM
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Old Nov 7th, 2004, 09:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for the quick reply...

I was also wondering, do you think it could have something to do with the timing belt/chain or how can you tell if it's gone bad or broken without pulling the engine out to get to the cover?

Also, if the plugs are dry, it's safe to go ahead with the fuel pump replacement? I did the tune-up about a month ago.

Thanks for all of your feedback!!
about the timing chain it just usualy dont stop all of a sudden its a slight possiblility but if it did break it would cause the valves to possibly stick out and while you crank on it ..the pistons would hit the valves so if it turns over freely then dont worry about your timing chain do this pull the plug wires off one at a time and have some one crank on your car wile you hold it close to a ground to make sure your getting spark theres my 2 cents worth
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Old Nov 8th, 2005, 07:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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about the timmings up there...is that for all models of the Nissans...for instance can i use that for a 1983 datson 280zx IL6 N/A??
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Old Nov 9th, 2005, 03:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you broke the timing chain all you would get is a smooth electric motor sound. All the that you would hear is the starter spinning the crank and nothing else. Have you had someone check to see if you hear the fuel pump kick on when you turn the key to on and not crank? I'd try to start with the simple rather than the destructive first.
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