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GA16DE 1.6L Engine Engine Discussion: 91-99 Sentra, 95-98 200SX, 91-93 NX1600

       
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Old Aug 1st, 2004, 09:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question automatic stalling?

Hey I did a quick search but didn't see anything that resembled quite what I was looking for.
A little background, i have an automatic ga16 with just over 90,000 miles. In the last 6 or 7 months it has stalled twice, and those are the only two times it has ever done that.
This weekend my brother borrowed the car. He got the oil changed before he left and then called me tonight and said that this weekend the service engine soon light came on, and that the car has stalled twice this weekend.
So has anyone had a similar problem, or know what the cause is? I am hoping i haven't reached my sr20de swap a little earlier than planned.
Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 1st, 2004, 11:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it can be anything really....without u giving more details, its safe to assume its a fuel filter, bad ignition system, dirty TB, clogged injectors, etc...the list keeps going
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Old Aug 2nd, 2004, 10:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you know of any good ways to narrow down the possibilities?
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Old Aug 2nd, 2004, 11:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What happens when the car stalls? Does it just die, or does the idle serge/buck etc. Does is happen at idle, or when you are coming to a stop etc. Cold engine, warm engine?

Find out what the CEL is, that will hopefully help.
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Old Aug 3rd, 2004, 02:45 AM   #5 (permalink)
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mine used to stall when coming to a stop. It hasn't done that in a while, but when it did, I used to have to make the car run to a slow stop to prevent it from stalling. Any ideas on a cause?
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Old Aug 4th, 2004, 09:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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mine used to stall when coming to a stop. It hasn't done that in a while, but when it did, I used to have to make the car run to a slow stop to prevent it from stalling. Any ideas on a cause?

Ok i got my code, bad news i am thinking. 0304 which if i follow the lines correctly means that is the knock sensor. Well i talked to my brother..he now tells me he decided to do an experiment and use lowest octane ( 85 octane here in the great state of utah) . So i am going to go get some octane booster right now. Anyone put that in a full tank of gas before? I think you are supposed to do it before you fill up.
Any other suggestions on some good precautions i should take? Thanks for your help guys.

It was my first time getting an ecu code..that sucks haha. Why couldnt they make it easier to get to.
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Old Aug 4th, 2004, 10:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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0304 is a knock sensor problem
if your car is detonating the ecu after receiving the 0304 error retards the timing by 10 degrees so adding higher octane shouldn't tell you much so your best bet is to check the sensor ohms or aleast make sure the sensor isnt loose this alone could cause problems
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Old Aug 4th, 2004, 10:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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0304 is a knock sensor problem
if your car is detonating the ecu after receiving the 0304 error retards the timing by 10 degrees so adding higher octane shouldn't tell you much so your best bet is to check the sensor ohms or aleast make sure the sensor isnt loose this alone could cause problems

And I was starting to feel proud of myself for figuring out the code How do i check the sensor ohms, or how tight it is?
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Old Aug 4th, 2004, 10:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I found it a bitch to get to but you need a multimeter unplug the cable and check the resistence between terminal 2 and the ground with the car off and cooled you should get around 500-620K ohms if so its okay. I ran a small wire from the ground of the battery to the negtive post on the meter to get a good ground. If your not fimilar with ohm meters you need the set the meter on a high ohm scale for a better reading like 5-10M
Tight is tight and not loose a few inch pounds more then hand tight?
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Old Aug 5th, 2004, 02:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
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also associated with this code:

-improper spark plug
-insufficient compression
-ERG valve
-injector shorted or leaking
-intake air leak
-front O2 sensor


I have had this code many times, and my automatic bucks and stalls as well; that's how I recognized the code.
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Old Aug 5th, 2004, 09:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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also associated with this code:

-improper spark plug
-insufficient compression
-ERG valve
-injector shorted or leaking
-intake air leak
-front O2 sensor


I have had this code many times, and my automatic bucks and stalls as well; that's how I recognized the code.
Have you had all of those throw that code, or is it usually just one of them?
I'm not sure if i did everything exactly right in getting the code because after you get it its supposed to clear the code right? My ses light is still on. ARe you supposed to turn it counter clockwise and then clockwise again after you get the code?
I'm not sure if the gas was the only problem, but i can definitely feel the performance is back in my car, so I think the timing has been advanced back to normal, so now i'm just trying to figure out why the light is still on.
Thanks for all the help guys.
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Old Aug 5th, 2004, 09:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ARe you supposed to turn it counter clockwise and then clockwise again after you get the code?
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Old Aug 6th, 2004, 01:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Have you had all of those throw that code, or is it usually just one of them?
If you look up that code in the FSM, it will give you the list of possible causes for the code. btw code 0304 is called "cylinder #4 misfire" code. and what I listed above are the possible triggers.

Good luck

BTW, I've been working on my problem for 1.5 years now. I hope you have better luck then me btw, you never answered any of my questions in my first reply to your post
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Old Aug 6th, 2004, 05:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What happens when the car stalls? Does it just die, or does the idle serge/buck etc. Does is happen at idle, or when you are coming to a stop etc. Cold engine, warm engine?

Find out what the CEL is, that will hopefully help.

Haha sorry about that man..too much going on. When it stalls it's when the car is coming to a stop and then the car just dies. Both warm and cold engine.


THe list i had said 0304 was knock sensor?
So just for the 4th cylinder misfiring?

So if i didn't turn it clockwise and counterclockwise again after i got the code, is that a bad thing? Should i do it all again, or just unplug the battery to reset it.
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it need turned back full counterclockwise then back again after it giving it code just setting back it be okay if the problem is doesnt thorw a signal again
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