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Old Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question all things needed for turbo

can anyone tell me all the things i would need to buy. make. or get made for a turbo set up with an intercooler on any ga16de. of course. turbo manifold. the intake. all the pipeing to the intercooler. the intercooler to intake manifold. turbo to the exhaust.. other than that. do i need anything else? ive heared something about drilling in to the block so i could oil the turbo? is this true? do i need anything else that i didnt mention?

and does anyone have any good pics of turbo set ups on a 1.6. and what did u use? estimate prices?
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Old Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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take a trip over to the forced induction section of this site >> there is a new sticky up top about turbo ing the GA16.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 10:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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www.hotshot.com has a nice turbo setup including everything you need for a reasonable price. Check them out also.
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 10:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i dunno, i think that price is kinda "monopolizing" the market, since they are the only producers of a 1.6 kit, if only HKS would come around with something using a ball bearing turbo...
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 11:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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the hot shot price is the same price that summit sells the honda d16 turbo kit for. it is reasonable. personally you will be better off going with an sr20det for around 2400 complete. gives you 210hp
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 02:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The SR20 swap is more worth it in the end if u are going to be pushing 400+ HP. The GA16DE can't handle that much power without upgrading rods/pistons, etc. I guess it just depends on what you want to do with the ca that determines which would be better for you.

I'd personally like to see what I could get out of this tiny engine. But then again, it would be nice to have an extra .4L of displacement. Or better yet, stroke out an SR20 toa 2.2L.
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 05:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The SR20 swap is more worth it in the end if u are going to be pushing 400+ HP. The GA16DE can't handle that much power without upgrading rods/pistons, etc. I guess it just depends on what you want to do with the ca that determines which would be better for you.

I'd personally like to see what I could get out of this tiny engine. But then again, it would be nice to have an extra .4L of displacement. Or better yet, stroke out an SR20 toa 2.2L.
I don't think anyone knows how much the GA can hold so I don't think it's a fair comparison to say a SR20 swap is more worth it... in the end you're still spending money either way... what if the GA can hold 250hp is it worth it then? 300? 350? I mean that is the attitude that most people have toward the GA and I don't think it's very fair...
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If you have to ask this question your not ready to commit to a turbo setup unless you are going to buy a bolt onkit and have someone do the install for you.

Since your asking this I'd wager to say you'd like to do this as cheaply as possible. This means buying parts yourself and doing some/all of the install yourself. In order to do this you need to learn what is involved in making a turbo setup, and making it run properly. I'd spend a good month of doing research if you are serious about this. You don't want to dive in half way on something like this. Spend some time in the Forced induction section and search the internet. You will learn a TON of stuff. Also Sport Compact Car and other mags. have GREAT write ups on how turbo's work.
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 09:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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thats what im doin wes. im searching. yes money is a problem. i just got out of high school and going in to college. im still a kid. im not saying im putting a turbo in to my car tomorrow. im just searching. i want my car to be turbo within the next 2 years. im still working on suspension. i was just asking what are all the things need for a turbo set up. not that its going in my car. well not yet. but its just a question. cause everytime i think i know everything im gonna need. i find out i need something else. but i think i know what i need now from the force induction thread. thanks everyone for all ur replys and help. and i to think the hotshot turbo set up is just a bit overpriced.
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I don't think anyone knows how much the GA can hold so I don't think it's a fair comparison to say a SR20 swap is more worth it... in the end you're still spending money either way... what if the GA can hold 250hp is it worth it then? 300? 350? I mean that is the attitude that most people have toward the GA and I don't think it's very fair...
I'm just saying that it would be more worth it if you are looking for 400-450 HP b/c it is known to be able that much power without upgrading internals. To me that is the only reason it would be worth swapping a motor, though either way is a lot of work and a lto of money. That and extra displacement.

I would to find out exactly how much the GA can handle. I'm hoping that I will get enough money in the next couple years to turbo the GA. Maybe I should have stated that more clearly.

Considering most people aren't going to be pushing 400 HP on street cars, if the GA can handle 300HP, we'll say, then we're good to go right from the start. But if it can only handle say 200-250 or so, then is the price of upgrading the internals and everything else required worth it, or should we just swap out motors. This is basically the delima going on in my mind about whether or not to turbo this motor, or to swap in a Bluebird and go from there. Well... that and I would really like a RWD car.
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Old Jun 25th, 2003, 08:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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sorry a little sensitive about the 1.6... I have a lot of faith in it... in the auto tranny too! it's like your... nevermind...

If it hit's 300hp that's plenty enough for me!
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I can understand about the sensitivity... I was like "Whoa... sent the wrong message there"

300HP is enough for me for a street car, but if I ever build a track-only car, I'm probably gonna want more power than that. Closer to that 400-450 HP range, and I dont want to have to order special rods and pistons, etc. when I one of them blows. The SR20's bottom end can handle that stock, so all I would need is Nissan rods/pistons. And since we don't know the limit of the GA just yet, I think at this point, atleast for me, I'd rather an SR20 for the BIG HP. But that could change soon considering how well NPM's project 1.6T is going.. It's not to say that the GA isn't a stout little motor (heck, it's lasted me two years driving it like a bat out of hell), it's just that we dont kno exactly how stout she is.
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Old Jun 25th, 2003, 11:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, to answer the original question,this is what you need to turbo ANY engine:Exhaust manifold with proper flange,Turbo , oil lines and water cooling lines for turbo,intercooler, headpipe back exhaust, air intake, proper fuel and spark management, Tubing for intake tract,silicone couplers for tubing,Blow off valve(recirculating type is best for MAF system) and tubing for that. I probably missed a few things,but that 's about it.
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thanks himilefrontier. and yes the smog law free florida helps me out a lot too. since i have nothing on my car from the emisions and no cat. even though i can probably still get a ticker for not having a cat. ill just say the resonator is my cat. they dont know the diffrence. other than hot shot? theirs no one who makes a turbo set up for the ga16?

and also. i was wondering. ive heared they sell the exhaust turbo manifold for the 1.8 and it fits the 1.6 can anyone confirm this? has anyone done this? i dont remember where i read it from. but i know only the manifold fits. nothing else from that turbo set up fits right.

also i forgot to ask. i know that its possible. but does anyone have turbo with nos? does the nos help with the turbo lag? would u recommend it?

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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 03:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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well the actually sell the manifold for the 1.6 but you only have to call them to order one.. i think its about 600 or something close to that..
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