Haven't been on here in a lot time, but it's nice to know this place is still kicking. So now that Hotshot is gone what am I to do for a replacement header? My old one rusted out, well the 2 into 1 tubbing did... it also somehow caused an oil leak.
So since I'm going to be replacing the oil pan I thought I might as well change the header. Now I don't want to change out the 4 tubes that make up the first part of the header. I would like to just replace the 2 into 1 tube... but would a pacesetter... or worse, obx, or other aftermarket header fit in place with the hotshot? Does anyone make a quality header for the 1.6 anymore? Or is pacesetter the best now a days?
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I heard the Weapon R is the best in the market right now.They look exactly the same like the hotshot one.I own a pacesetter.I am please with its performance for its relatively lower price.
I went with the pacesetter, just hoping it fits with my old hotshot. I'm planning to change the oil pan myself but I'm reading you have to possible take off an engine mount and brace... this is going to be a bad weekend.
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For the oil pan all you should have to remove is the lower crossmember... the oil pan itself is held in by bolts. Make sure you use RTV silicon along with the cork gasket, though I personally opted out of the cork gasket and only used silicon. Those cork gaskets are junk, but we're stuck with them until someone comes up with something of a little higher quality.
I went with the pacesetter, just hoping it fits with my old hotshot. I'm planning to change the oil pan myself but I'm reading you have to possible take off an engine mount and brace... this is going to be a bad weekend.
I was reading the Hoshot website few days ago, and it was decribing its quality and i swear it said " cheap POS header knock off like pacetter" who copy hotshot design ....and so on, there are other names on there too, and honestly pacetter is garbage, not only does it give you crappy performance, the header makes all cars sound like fart cans and due to its very bad internal piping welding it destroys the engine after a few years.
look up pacetter in the tuner market, everyone is starting to throw them away they are crap, sorry if hotshot litrerally calls pacetter "pos" then they must be.
Do you have any evidence to support these statements, or are you taking what someone has said to be law? Because I just looked at the HotShot website to see and saw nothing stating what your saying it does. Just curious, because I haven't heard that many terrible things about Pacesetter.
Do you have any evidence to support these statements, or are you taking what someone has said to be law? Because I just looked at the HotShot website to see and saw nothing stating what your saying it does. Just curious, because I haven't heard that many terrible things about Pacesetter.
here you go boss.
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By Michael Young
NissanPerformanceMagazine.com
November 2001
"Hotshot Performance, since the early days, has been supporting the Nissan aftermarket with high quality products. While other companies were ignoring the needs of the Nissan enthusiast, Hotshot was at the forefront of designing and manufacturing headers for both the SR20DE and GA16DE. In fact, most of the cheaply produced Nissan headers on the market today are direct copies of the early generation Hotshot designs."
"These poor imitations are produced with inferior materials and workmanship. This becomes very apparent in side by side comparisons. You could say "Hotshot was the Pacesetter" (Pun Intended).
Once you understand the manner in which Hotshot handles their research and development, it's easy to understand the fault with the P.O.S. copies"
sorry bro, nothing personal, but i have herd nothing but crap about pacestter headers, i was going buy them too, but they just are bad quality and sound like fart cans.
you should have gotten OBX they are still decent. Its not to do with Hp, but how reliable the header materials and inner borering is, that will not only increase your hp but keep your engine running smooth for a long time, the copies or crappy headers mess up the engine and never last half as long, and by few months you get half the hp gains because the inside of the header rots.
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Yea i've not only been just part of this forum but also SR20 for about 2.5 years now and pacesetter has never had a good rep with our cars...hotshot was the best...if you buy pacesetter you get what you pay for.
I have been using the pacesetter for quite a while.I even drove it in the snow full of de-icer with no problem.Engine has never been so smooth before.I would say this is good for any DD.If you want to build a race car,go for hotshot.
When I was looking for a header,I tried to find a hotshot.But they went out of business and it's just impossible to locate one.So I have to choose something else.Good luck finding one out there.
My pacesetter doesn't sound like a fart-can.It depends on what kind of exhaust pipe you are using.
I used to have the frst Gen Hotshot and the coating went bad and that design was not great. the O2 sensor was hitting the alternator, there was no secondary pipe to the CAT, so you had to use the nissan Tiny 1 3/4" pipe. that sucked, so many of us had to go to shops and have new pipes made to get the power of the header!! what a bitch. I do not like pacesetter headers either. the welds are crap, not clean where the pieces come together. Even Hotshots Gen 1 was 100% better!
Gen 2 Hotshot is really good and I have this on now. If the thing ever cracks or rusts out, then I will have it rebuilt at a shop!! I think they really did a great job on the Gen 2. flanges are laser cut, good copper gasket on the downpipe. the secondary pipe has a flex joint and flanges are top notch. The 02 sensor Hole for the 95 models have a bolt that you can leave in for the 91-94 cars. So, I love that thing. No issues and the coating is Ceramic Jet hot coated that High luster coating. looks like polished alluminum.
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I'd like to know what to do as well. It's pretty well accepted that the HotShots were great peices, but they're almost impossible to find now. So the question is: Is the weapon R that much better made than the PS/OBX/SSAC headers that the extra $250-300 is worth it? Or are they just expensive junk?
Hotshot headers aren't even a possibility for most people, so praising how great they are doesn't help those who don't have em.
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