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Old Sep 21st, 2006, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sentra Turbo Install

Hi, I have a 96 Sentra 1.6L, and I am thinking about installing a turbo into it. The car has 78,000 miles on it, and I am wondering if the car could handle a turbo with that many miles? Also I found a turbo kit for a 95 200sx with a 2.0L engine I was wondering if the turbo would work for my Sentra?
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Old Sep 21st, 2006, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You will have to do some pretty extensive work to get that car capable of handling a turbo without some real problems. Among alot of things you will need to upgrade your suspension all the way around. Including stabilizer bars, new struts, and strut towers. Also, you can forget about being legal. If the cops stop you they will tow your car away if driven on the public streets. If I was to get a turbo I will go with hotshot. But it is pretty costly.
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Old Sep 21st, 2006, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You will have to do some pretty extensive work to get that car capable of handling a turbo without some real problems. Among alot of things you will need to upgrade your suspension all the way around. Including stabilizer bars, new struts, and strut towers. Also, you can forget about being legal. If the cops stop you they will tow your car away if driven on the public streets. If I was to get a turbo I will go with hotshot. But it is pretty costly.
Why exactly would it be illegal just to have a turbo system installed on your car? I've never heard of this, and have many friends with turbo kits and superchargers, and none of their cars have been towed away.

Are you sure it's not just a local law where you are?
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Old Sep 21st, 2006, 10:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You will have to do some pretty extensive work to get that car capable of handling a turbo without some real problems. Among alot of things you will need to upgrade your suspension all the way around. Including stabilizer bars, new struts, and strut towers. Also, you can forget about being legal. If the cops stop you they will tow your car away if driven on the public streets. If I was to get a turbo I will go with hotshot. But it is pretty costly.
Yeah this is just crazy, you don't need any of these things to install a turbo kit. A better suspension will help though.
And the things about the cops are nuts too. The HS kit keeps all the original emmisions equipment. It doesn't have a CARB number but that doesn't matter unless ur in CA.
HS doesn't make the turbo kit for the GA16 anymore though, and no a 2.0 turbo kit won't fit at all.
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Old Sep 21st, 2006, 10:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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there are still turbo kits out there for the GA16 that are bolt on hard to find tho, but the biggest thing with the 2.0 turbo kit is the fact that the header will not match up and the intake manifold wont either, these are compleatly different moters. and only will be bothered by the cops if you drive like and idiot and get pulled over. but they have a point with significant work that needs to be done to the car, altho suspention is not needed unless you begin to race your turbo car. but here is what i say. do it, do it well and try to make it burn clean, and i wish you lots of luck with the prodject, and i hope to begin mine soon.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 07:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well you see I found a turbo on Ebay for $169.00, it's one of those T3 turbos but doesn't come with any of the pipes that I would need to install it. Sence I don't know shit about turbos I was wondering if someone could write out a list of the parts that I would need to do the install. Any help would be awesome.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 09:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well you see I found a turbo on Ebay for $169.00, it's one of those T3 turbos but doesn't come with any of the pipes that I would need to install it. Sence I don't know shit about turbos I was wondering if someone could write out a list of the parts that I would need to do the install. Any help would be awesome.
It depends also, whether you plan on doing a setup with or without intercooler.

I'm sure if you browse around you can find everything you would need to accomplish the task at hand.

Things I would think of...

Turbo exhaust manifold (custom, or not)
Piping
Intercooler (if you're going to use one)
Fuel injectors
Fuel rail (not sure if stock fuel rail would support larger injectors or not.)
MAF (I've seen people say that stock MAF works, but just for grins I would go with a 240sx MAF to be safe)
Oil lines and oil pan with oil line connection (Haven't heard of anyone doing this, but I see it often on other setups)
Reprogrammed ECU (Must IMO)
BOV or Diverter valve

I know for a fact that there's more than this that is needed, but just can't think of everything (Haven't had coffee yet, really early )
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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 01:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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let me add a few

Water lines
air fule gauge
wide band fule controler
lots and lots of couplers
new filter


ill update more if i can remember them and more importantly you will find out what you need it when you need it, your looking at a long prodject to instal, and longer to tune to perfection but i hope you still follow throgh with this, its a worthy thing to do
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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 04:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey 5aprilc. Did U buy the T3 turbo.Hopefully you didnt cause it would
suck on the GA16DE.Your gonna get insane amounts of lag (they have
a lot of lag on even the CA18DET) and it wount be fun to drive at all.
I would say,go for a T25 (if you want a mild every day car) or a
T28 for some more go.You can go mad and do a GT28 ballbearing
but its pricey.
Your gonna have to upgrade the fuel system,some 370cc injectors would
do.If you cant get a turbo exhaust manifold you must have one made.
I would say go for a intercooler,it would be a waste to spend all the money
on a turbo upgrade and not do a intercooler.Your boost would be extremely
limited if you dont.The down pipe should be like 3" and the rest of the exhaust
can be 2.5". If your gonna run MAF give JWT a call for the ECU and get a BOV
that redirects the air to before the intake manifold.
I can go on and on,but I would say that it will not be easy and it will be expensive,
but it'll put a smile on your face everytime.
If you do do it,do it proper the first time or you'll have endless problems.
Fill us in when you go ahead and do it.
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Old Sep 22nd, 2006, 09:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Im not making any promices but if hotshot doesnt send me the rest of my stuff ill sell you all piping, bov, reprogramed ecu, 240sx MAF, 370injectors, intercooler, boost &oilpress. guage, all couplers and hoses, and downpipe. Only thing you would need is the turbo, manifold, oil line, and reocatable EGR pipe.

But again no promises yet.
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Cordia Turbo transplant?

I was advised by a mechanic that it's possibe to slot in a Cordia Turbo motor into a 1.6L Pulsar. Not sure if this is true, but does anyone know if it's possible.

If it is possible, those cordia motors go like helll!!

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Old Sep 23rd, 2006, 03:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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air fule gauge
wide band fule controler

You don't need an air fuel gauge or a wide band controller if you go with a JWT ECU....
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Old Sep 23rd, 2006, 04:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Fuel rail (not sure if stock fuel rail would support larger injectors or not.)
MAF (I've seen people say that stock MAF works, but just for grins I would go with a 240sx MAF to be safe)
The stock fuel rail will handle 370cc injectors... The GA16 MAF can only handle 7 to 8 psi before peaking out....
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The stock fuel rail will handle 370cc injectors... The GA16 MAF can only handle 7 to 8 psi before peaking out....
Thanks, wasn't exactly sure on those items
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Old Sep 24th, 2006, 03:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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You will have to do some pretty extensive work to get that car capable of handling a turbo without some real problems. Among alot of things you will need to upgrade your suspension all the way around. Including stabilizer bars, new struts, and strut towers. Also, you can forget about being legal. If the cops stop you they will tow your car away if driven on the public streets. If I was to get a turbo I will go with hotshot. But it is pretty costly.
yeah, those California laws are pretty strict, I don't see why they should care if your car still passes emissions. But I guess the government knows whats best for the people

I don't think any other states besides California use the CARB regulations, but I really feel sorry for those people who live in states which do have them.
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