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#1 Old May 21st, 2006, 06:21 PM
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Air conditioner stalls car

Hello,

I have a 95 Sentra GXE.

I had this similar problem last summer and now it's back again. When I turn on the AC and drive around a short time then stop the car, the engine stalls. I have to turn off the AC to get the car started again.

Now, last summer, a mechanic replaced the blower motor resistor because I was having that same problem PLUS not all the fan settings were working. This year all my fan speeds are working correctly, but the car is stalling again.

My question is: should I replace the blower motor resisitor again? Or is there a different solution altogether?

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#2 Old May 22nd, 2006, 11:08 AM
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Hello,

I have a 95 Sentra GXE.

I had this similar problem last summer and now it's back again. When I turn on the AC and drive around a short time then stop the car, the engine stalls. I have to turn off the AC to get the car started again.

Now, last summer, a mechanic replaced the blower motor resistor because I was having that same problem PLUS not all the fan settings were working. This year all my fan speeds are working correctly, but the car is stalling again.

My question is: should I replace the blower motor resisitor again? Or is there a different solution altogether?

Thanks!
This is a different problem to the blower resister.
Check your idle speed with A/C off and on. It should idle up when the A/C is on. I suspect this is the problem.
If the idle is within spec and it idles up to the correct speed I would suggest checking the Freon Charge. Is this worse when its hotter outside ? Long periods of idling? How well does the A/C cool ? where are you located ? (I am really asking is how hot is it there.)
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#3 Old May 22nd, 2006, 04:27 PM
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This is a different problem to the blower resister.
Check your idle speed with A/C off and on. It should idle up when the A/C is on. I suspect this is the problem.
If the idle is within spec and it idles up to the correct speed I would suggest checking the Freon Charge. Is this worse when its hotter outside ? Long periods of idling? How well does the A/C cool ? where are you located ? (I am really asking is how hot is it there.)
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Thank you, IanH. When I turn on the AC, the idle speed nearly drops to nothing, but then picks up again. I've done this many times in the garage. But if I drive it around, the car will stall when I come to a stop with the AC on. Could it just be a manner of cleaning the fuel injectors? Is this a fuel/air mixture problem?

Also, when I turn on the AC, it makes a loud CLICK sound. It seems louder than usual, but maybe I wasn't listening as closely before.

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#4 Old May 23rd, 2006, 08:34 AM
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something to check might be your fuel pressure regulator. I had a problem with my nissan motor in my minivan about stalling. I had it on numerous machines and it never showed any problems. I spent over $1000 dollars with dianogistics, other parts that mechanics said it should be and labor. In the end it was a $17.95 fuel pressure regulator. Since replacing that I havent had a problem with it stalling.
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Thank you, IanH. When I turn on the AC, the idle speed nearly drops to nothing, but then picks up again. I've done this many times in the garage. But if I drive it around, the car will stall when I come to a stop with the AC on. Could it just be a manner of cleaning the fuel injectors? Is this a fuel/air mixture problem?

Also, when I turn on the AC, it makes a loud CLICK sound. It seems louder than usual, but maybe I wasn't listening as closely before.
Ok I checked my idle speeds yesterday while driving.
With A/C off idle = 750 rpm
With A/C on Idle = 950 rpm Both approx from tach.
If this is not what you have, then this is your problem.
Yes the click is the clutch pulling in and is normal.

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Ok I checked my idle speeds yesterday while driving.
With A/C off idle = 750 rpm
With A/C on Idle = 950 rpm Both approx from tach.
If this is not what you have, then this is your problem.
Yes the click is the clutch pulling in and is normal.
This may sound dumb, but how do I check the rpms?

I got the fuel injection system cleaned out today and it makes a big difference idling. Also the engine is not as whiny during idle. Glad I got that done.

But the AC still stalls the car. The guys that cleaned out my injectors didn't know what the problem was, but they are not real mechanics. They gave me ideas like change the fuel filter, distro cap, rotor, and plugs. All that stuff.

Anyone else have any ideas what could be causing my AC to stall the car? When I turn it on, it clicks, idles high for about one second, and then the engine stops.
#7 Old May 23rd, 2006, 06:19 PM
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I'd check a few things like voltage drop... when you start the A/C ... Use a voltage tester in-line... you may have an electrical problem. I'd also take a look at the alternator - compressor belts... see what relation is in between them (Is the compressor on the same belt with the alternator or they run separate belts?) check tension on both.

Also since you think it's the blower resistor I'd try to compare the voltage with the blower set on heat and then the blower set on A/C, see how much the difference is ... if it drops down to 9 - 10 V with the A/C on then it's the A/C part you have to look closer. The ECU doesn't operate exactly like it's supposed to with 9V... low voltage will harm it eventually.

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Well, I don't know what to say but I just drove the car around for about 20 minutes with the AC on and it ran great. Could it be that cleaning out the fuel injection system solved the problem? I drove around the neighborhood, stopping at lights and turning the AC on and off, and it never once sounded like it wanted to die. Well, I guess I should invest in a voltage meter and see what's going on, but I'm hoping that the cleaning it got yesterday solved the problem.

Thanks all for your help.
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This may sound dumb, but how do I check the rpms?

I got the fuel injection system cleaned out today and it makes a big difference idling. Also the engine is not as whiny during idle. Glad I got that done.

But the AC still stalls the car. The guys that cleaned out my injectors didn't know what the problem was, but they are not real mechanics. They gave me ideas like change the fuel filter, distro cap, rotor, and plugs. All that stuff.

Anyone else have any ideas what could be causing my AC to stall the car? When I turn it on, it clicks, idles high for about one second, and then the engine stops.
Pleased to read its running better for you.
You would check the RPM's with a tachometer. Many Timing lights have one built in or you can buy a stand alone, or get Autozone to check it for you.
When the A/C turns on the engine should speed up some.
The other thing to check is the Idle valve (IACV) You can do a search and find the method for cleaning.

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The other thing to check is the Idle valve (IACV) You can do a search and find the method for cleaning.
I'm glad you brought that up because I've been searching on the net for the location of the IACV and have found nothing, let alone how to clean it. I have a Chilton's coming to me soon, so I'm sure it's all in there.

Thanks for the info on the tachometer. Perhaps I'll have Autozone check the car out for me.
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I'm glad you brought that up because I've been searching on the net for the location of the IACV and have found nothing, let alone how to clean it. I have a Chilton's coming to me soon, so I'm sure it's all in there.

Thanks for the info on the tachometer. Perhaps I'll have Autozone check the car out for me.
Search the GA16 section or individual B14 section of the forum here. There is a lot of data here.

http://www.nissanforums.com/786899-post8.html

http://www.nissanforums.com/ga16de-1...=IACV+cleaning

Try this one there are many more on this subject, this sounds just like your problem.

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Search the GA16 section or individual B14 section of the forum here. There is a lot of data here.

http://www.nissanforums.com/786899-post8.html

http://www.nissanforums.com/ga16de-1...=IACV+cleaning

Try this one there are many more on this subject, this sounds just like your problem.
Wow! I am forever grateful for that link. For some reason I didn't see it a search. But thanks to that tutorial I had that valve off and cleaned in 10 minutes! There sure was a lot of carbon in there. Now the engine sounds even better than before (or maybe it's all in my head!). I tried the AC again and it did not stall the car. The car seems to be idling high with the AC on, just as it should.

When I replace the distributor cap and rotor, I'll be certain to come back here for more help. Thanks!
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Hi,

I have a 96 Nissan Sentra and I've been having the same problem. I turn my AC on and the car starts to shake. I was idling/crawling in traffic yesterday (about 85* outside) I turned the AC on and the car died. Thankfully we were all stopped. I use Amsoil fuel injector clearer every time I fill up my car; could any one suggest what it might be other than the fuel injector? I know so some stuff about cars, but not a whole lot. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

PJ
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Hi All. I have two Nissan 200SX's. One 1995 (wife) and one 1996 (me). I love these cars. The one I drive has over 240 thousand on it and still goes great. About your engine cutting out problem, especially if you run the AC. Yep! It's probably the Idle Air Control Valve. Both of my Nissans had the same problem and both of them have never had the problem again after replacing this part. It's really easy to replace (two screws if memory serves) and when you look at it you will be amazed that something so innocent looking could cause you such grief. All it does is turn a little to let more air into the system so that your engine idles faster.

Just found another common problem today. The blower resistor (another two screw job). What happens is that your blower only run at the highest speed. The other three won't work. These kind of problems make me laugh when I think of the car I owned before this one. My Cougar had its engine and transmission replaced before 90 thousand. The people at the car dealer actually made pig squealing noises when I towed my car in for service (more than once). Guess what dealership I will be going to for my next car.
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Hi,

I have a 96 Nissan Sentra and I've been having the same problem. I turn my AC on and the car starts to shake. I was idling/crawling in traffic yesterday (about 85* outside) I turned the AC on and the car died. Thankfully we were all stopped. I use Amsoil fuel injector clearer every time I fill up my car; could any one suggest what it might be other than the fuel injector? I know so some stuff about cars, but not a whole lot. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

PJ
Paula, I had my fuel injection system professionally cleaned out, if that makes a difference. From what I understand some of the over-the-counter cleaners don't work so well. I also cleaned all the carbon off my Idle Air Control Valve and made it run a little better (I think).

Perhaps another idea would be to replace the cap, rotor, plugs, and wires? I wish I knew more about cars to help you, but there's gotta be someone on here with suggestions.
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