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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 04:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2001 crew 6cyl to 4cyl swap?

has anyone does it? the gas prices are killing me. i want the 4 door in the crew but get gas milage of a 4cyl truck. Anyone else thinking about this or am i just crazy?
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 08:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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has anyone does it? the gas prices are killing me. i want the 4 door in the crew but get gas milage of a 4cyl truck. Anyone else thinking about this or am i just crazy?
You are just crazy. A smaller engine working harder will probably not provide significantly better mileage.

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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 11:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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according to the specs in msn auto. 2001 se crew cab 2wd weights 3916lbs (3868lbs manual) with auto tranny and 1998 4wd xe 4cyl weights 3699lbs with manual tranny. It's only 217lbs more and 169lbs more with manual. it's like carrying an extra person at all times. Not that much diff eh..
I guess the V6 and the 4cyl don't use the same tranny?? or does it?
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Old Feb 21st, 2008, 12:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Even if that did get you better fuel efficiency, I doubt you'd ever save enough money to make up for its cost.

Gasoline is only one part of the total costs of vehicle ownership, with inurance, taxes, maintenance/repair. Do the math, see how much a (for example) 3 mpg savings (that's huge) would save in a year.
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according to the specs in msn auto. 2001 se crew cab 2wd weights 3916lbs (3868lbs manual) with auto tranny and 1998 4wd xe 4cyl weights 3699lbs with manual tranny. It's only 217lbs more and 169lbs more with manual. it's like carrying an extra person at all times. Not that much diff eh..
I guess the V6 and the 4cyl don't use the same tranny?? or does it?
The 2001 3.3 liter non-supercharged V-6 has 170 HP. Each of those 170 HP is hauling 22.8 pounds on the se crew manual (3868 pounds). The 2001 2.4 liter I-4 puts out 143 HP. Each horsepower for that engine will be hauling 27.0 pounds on the 2001 se crew manual (3868 pounds). You are hauling 15 percent more weight for each horsepower. If you want the same performance you are not going to get it without a greater throttle push (step harder on the pedal). The only place where you may see measurable improvement is in steady state cruise where only a portion of the engine's power is required.

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Old Feb 22nd, 2008, 02:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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between my two frontier.. 98 king cab 4cyl 4x4, 01 crew cab 2wd. diff is 30Liters of additional gas a week. It's $1.18 for gas here in vancouver. So about $30 for 52 weeks a year. That's over $1500 a year. That would cover the cost of a 4cyl engine and tranny. And a weeked on my driveway. But i'm trying to figure out if the 200lbs extra would offset the amount of gas usage.....

I think in the long run over a year.. i will save money.. i think at least after the first year. but in the short run... not really..
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Old Feb 28th, 2008, 12:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's not only the engine and trans, but the ECM and harness and swapping over the emission controls, possibly the driveshaft...The 4 cyl. engines were never that spectacular as far as fuel mileage in the heavy truck body, besides...Plus, they would have to work harder than the V6. If the gas mileage is that much of a concern, you will be better off trading it in for a more fuel efficient vehicle, like a car or a crossover.
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Old Feb 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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my friend at work has a 1998 rodeo. He ordered a turbo diesel that came with the rodeo in the UK with the tranny. Did the the swap. Now he's getting 400 miles every 15 gallon. Maybe same idea and a diesel swap? i know the frontier came with a diesel in other country....
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Old Mar 3rd, 2008, 05:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I second the diesel idea. Diesel is more expensive than gas right now, but you'd probably have as much torque as your 6-cyl and get much better MPG.
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Old Mar 3rd, 2008, 10:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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weird. Diesel is about the same or cheaper in canada then gas here.
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