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post #1 of 32 Old Jan 24th, 2006, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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'05 Belt or Bearing Squeak??

My 05 Nismo CC 4x4 has developed a belt or bearing squeak at idle. I don't hear it while driving. It's not the typical loose belt squeal....it's an annoying squeak just at idle. Everything seems tight & aligned. Goes away with higher rpm's (or atleast I can't hear it). It's hard to pin point - seems to be on the pass. side of the engine. Hoping a pulley/alternator/water pump bearing isn't taking a crap. Has anyone else experienced this?
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My 05 Nismo CC 4x4 has developed a belt or bearing squeak at idle. I don't hear it while driving. It's not the typical loose belt squeal....it's an annoying squeak just at idle. Everything seems tight & aligned. Goes away with higher rpm's (or atleast I can't hear it). It's hard to pin point - seems to be on the pass. side of the engine. Hoping a pulley/alternator/water pump bearing isn't taking a crap. Has anyone else experienced this?
Yup. Except sometimes it only squeaks at idle and goes away when revved up, and other times it won't make any noise at idle and will squeal like a banshee when I rev the engine.

I can't get it to the dealer while it's making the noise (happens pretty infrequently), so no fix yet.

Keep me posted on yours... maybe I can use it as ammo with my dealer.
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My 05 Nismo CC 4x4 has developed a belt or bearing squeak at idle. I don't hear it while driving. It's not the typical loose belt squeal....it's an annoying squeak just at idle. Everything seems tight & aligned. Goes away with higher rpm's (or atleast I can't hear it). It's hard to pin point - seems to be on the pass. side of the engine. Hoping a pulley/alternator/water pump bearing isn't taking a crap. Has anyone else experienced this?
Same damn problem. Been to the dealership over seven times now. Now I am about to start using another dealership. They have replaced my idler pulley, counter measure pulley, had at least two sets of belts, and you know what, still having the problem. Now, it only happens ocassionally, so I guess the idiots are getting closer to fixing the problem for good. They said I had a bad bearing on the idler pulley and replaced the whole pulley while they were at it(might be one whole assembly?). But yes, same exact problem I am having on my 04 frontier.

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...They said I had a bad bearing on the idler pulley and replaced the whole pulley while they were at it(might be one whole assembly?)...
Just a point on this. Yes Nissan considers this one assembly, but the bearings are easily removed and replaced - - just takes a bit more time, but it's cheaper (unless of course it's warranty work).

As for tracking down the noise. I like using a mechanic's stethoscope, quite cheap at a parts or tools store. Same idea as the medical version, just with a long metal end instead of the circular pad. You just stick the ends in your ears and then place the other (long metal) end on the various components to try and pin point the noise (just don't touch a rotating pulley ).

I find this has worked for me a number of times when I'm trying to find the source of a noise. Sound travels well through the steel and aluminum parts on the engine and is easily transfered into the stethoscope.

Just a thought if you want to try something yourself.

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Just a point on this. Yes Nissan considers this one assembly, but the bearings are easily removed and replaced - - just takes a bit more time, but it's cheaper (unless of course it's warranty work).

As for tracking down the noise. I like using a mechanic's stethoscope, quite cheap at a parts or tools store. Same idea as the medical version, just with a long metal end instead of the circular pad. You just stick the ends in your ears and then place the other (long metal) end on the various components to try and pin point the noise (just don't touch a rotating pulley ).

I find this has worked for me a number of times when I'm trying to find the source of a noise. Sound travels well through the steel and aluminum parts on the engine and is easily transfered into the stethoscope.

Just a thought if you want to try something yourself.
Yeah, I think I am going to do that. I am getting tired of what seems like games they are playing. Thanks for the advice.

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Yeah, I think I am going to do that. I am getting tired of what seems like games they are playing. Thanks for the advice.
Did you ever figure out what was causing the noise?
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As of yesterday Im getting this noise too. I couldnt get the truck in for service until next Monday, though. Oh well, now they can fix my wobbly passenger side seat while theyre at it.

The belts are supposed to be self-tensioning (non-adjustable). My guess is they will replace the tensioner first.


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Update on my case... they replaced the drive belt on my truck and said that the original belt was "glazed". The problem might be fixed, but I'm not very confident about it.

My personal opinion is that if it's glazed over, it's overheating due to high friction. Which leads me to believe that some pulley is dragging. I still think I have a bearing problem on something driven by the drive belt. I'll keep you guys posted if the noise comes back.
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I got the squeek as well now. I was just listening to it in parking garage on the way to work today. My 6 speed will do it when tooling around at low speeds in the garage as well.

However, I dont ever think I have heard it when the engine is warm, just when I first start it up, when its cold....

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We might want to keep an eye on this. There are a lot of people reporting this on 2005 models. There might be a design flaw somewhere leading to this (misaligned pulleys, bearing design, etc.).

My last car was a Mazda Protegé5. There was a problem with a screw on an intake butterfly coming loose and getting sucked into the engine. The Mazda Forums people collected the data from their members, reported the problems to NHTSA collectively, and were able to pressure Mazda into finally issuing a recall to correct the problem.

This might be something similar (I doubt it, but we need to build a history).

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Did you ever figure out what was causing the noise?
Well, on my 04 4cyl, my tensioner pulley was cocked at a slight angle. Doesn't look warped or even bent. The new dealerhip replaced the belt on that pulley and ordered a new bracket for that pulley. I'm going in tomorrow at 7:30am to have it installed and hopefully the problem will be fixed. Don't know how much help an update would be to you newer model guys, but I will let you know what happens anyways.

I personally believe that this has been the problem for my truck since it was brand new and if they would have seen it, then they might have been able to avoid replacing several sets of belts and those two pulleys(which I think wore out because of this). Oh well...

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I had the same problem early on. Took it to the dealership and they replaced the belt. No problems since (8K+ or so).
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For all with noise problems.
Does it happen usually if it has rained alot or is raining?

My experience with my 97 hardbody, my dads 01 crew cab, and my 04 is that nissan trucks just have noisy pulleys when there is alot of moisture around.

I just live with it and it has never caused any problems.
Yes it can be annoying if I leave my truck outside instead of garaging it and if it rains they will make all kinds of noise at idle in the morning.


I can live with it for a otherwise pretty good truck.
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I think, today, Monday 2/6/2006....We have not had Rain in Phoenix, Arizona for 111 consecutive days. Definately not a moisture problem over here...

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I think, today, Monday 2/6/2006....We have not had Rain in Phoenix, Arizona for 111 consecutive days. Definately not a moisture problem over here...
I wish I could send you some. I'm starting to get webbed feet over here!

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