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Old Oct 13th, 2005, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Remote oil filter

Anybody put a remote oil filter on a 1998 4 cylinder 2WD Frontier? I bought a PermaCool kit; any hints where to locate the new filter bracket? Any pitfalls or stuff to watch out for?
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Old Oct 17th, 2005, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1st question is why? I have a 97 4wd, and I know the filter is kind of a pain to reach, but it's not bad enough to hastle with installing a remote. have you tried just pulling down the black tar-paper like inner fender wall, I've found that to be the best, and really the only, way to effectively get to it. try turning the wheel to full lock right and pulling the paper back, just use pliers to pull the little plastic push pins that attach it to the inner fender. But if you must go with the remote filter I'd say to just keep the lines as strait and smooth as possible and put everything on the cooler side of the motor (as opposed to the side with the exhaust). And don't over tighten your fittings, you can always retighten them later, but it's hard to uncrush a seal or to remove a broken fitting.
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Old Oct 17th, 2005, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Johnny - I'll post back in a few weeks after I install it, and then I'll let you know if it was worth it.
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Old Oct 28th, 2005, 01:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There is a kit for a remote oil filter?????? Yea, what a great idea! Gimme some details ... where to buy and how much? How hard is it to install?

I don't know about you other owners, but I think the oil filter is a real PITA to get at. I am a big guy and I can't fit in the wheel well if the wheel is there too. So I have to remove the right front wheel every time I want to change the oil. Annoying.

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Old Oct 28th, 2005, 03:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I heard dat! I'm pretty slim so I can get it with the wheel turned fully to the right, but if you've got to remove the wheel, well I'd be wanting to move the filter too.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 01:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I just get under the truck and reach my arm up there. It is a pain in the ass to get my arm between the sway bar, and that other bar but I think it is easier than removing the tire.

I had never heard of going in through the wheel well. Wouldn't moving that wheel well liner wear out the plastic pins and cause the pins to come out one day and the liner start flaping like a *&^%$ driving down the road?
Thats the only thing that would bother me. Have you never had any problems like that? If not, I might have to try it next time I replace my filter. (filter only, I run full syn) <----thats funny. I haven't seen that one before
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 11:23 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah the pins wear out but they're super cheap and available all over the place (auto parts places, hardware stores, some Lowe's & Home Depot's, even some Wal-Mart's). I have had the flap fall down, but it doesn't make anny noise so I suspect that I rode arround for a few weeks with it down, no damage. It makes the filter way more accessible, it's just right there in front for you. Is yours 2 or 4 wheel drive? Mine's 4wd and I've got skidplates to get around.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 11:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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In my case, the pins are holding fine but the flimsy plastic liner is showing signs of wear. Particularly the holes where the pins go through. A couple holes are now ripped open but it still stays up in position even with just a couple holding it. If it falls off, then it falls off and I'll do without the liner.

Since Nissan never says how to change the oil in any manual I have seen, I'm not sure what process the designers had in mind. I think they meant to go through the wheel well since the filter is easily accessible if you get the wheel and tire out of the way but I'm willing to hear another explanation.

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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 11:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah the pins wear out but they're super cheap and available all over the place (auto parts places, hardware stores, some Lowe's & Home Depot's, even some Wal-Mart's). I have had the flap fall down, but it doesn't make anny noise so I suspect that I rode arround for a few weeks with it down, no damage. It makes the filter way more accessible, it's just right there in front for you. Is yours 2 or 4 wheel drive? Mine's 4wd and I've got skidplates to get around.
2wd drive. I might try that next time. Never hurts to try at least once I guess.
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In my case, the pins are holding fine but the flimsy plastic liner is showing signs of wear. Particularly the holes where the pins go through. A couple holes are now ripped open but it still stays up in position even with just a couple holding it. If it falls off, then it falls off and I'll do without the liner.

Since Nissan never says how to change the oil in any manual I have seen, I'm not sure what process the designers had in mind. I think they meant to go through the wheel well since the filter is easily accessible if you get the wheel and tire out of the way but I'm willing to hear another explanation.

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My 88 toyota was so much easier then this. I was shocked at the location of the filter the first time I changed the oil.
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Old Oct 29th, 2005, 11:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah I spent a few munutes looking for it before I caught a little glimpse of orange, then I spent the next hour trying to figure out how in the hell I was gonna get to it. Now I've spent the last two years wondering why it was ever put there. See this is what happens when you design a motor and then put it in the engine bay, as opposed to puttung the block in the bay and ten fitting the stuff in around it.

By the way, if you ever have to change out the alternator, the wheel well will be your best friend. It's not even all that bad through the well. you don't even really have to remove the wheel, just turn it to full lock right, and then turn off the key so the steering lock holds it in place.

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This is how I felt when I finally got out of the auto parts place parking lot.
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I think they meant to go through the wheel well since the filter is easily accessible if you get the wheel and tire out of the way but I'm willing to hear another explanation.

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Is there any way you can create an access hole in the wheel well the next time you have it out. You'd have to create a easily removable cover plate for it, but it seems ilke it would be doable.

The six screws holding the little plastic splash plate on my truck were easy enough to remove and replace. And, my fat hand and arm could reach up and get the filter loose, so that's the way I'll be doing it from now on.
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Old Oct 30th, 2005, 01:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah I spent a few munutes looking for it before I caught a little glimpse of orange, then I spent the next hour trying to figure out how in the hell I was gonna get to it. Now I've spent the last two years wondering why it was ever put there. See this is what happens when you design a motor and then put it in the engine bay, as opposed to puttung the block in the bay and ten fitting the stuff in around it.

By the way, if you ever have to change out the alternator, the wheel well will be your best friend. It's not even all that bad through the well. you don't even really have to remove the wheel, just turn it to full lock right, and then turn off the key so the steering lock holds it in place.

BRILLIANT!!
This is how I felt when I finally got out of the auto parts place parking lot.
I'll tell you whats a bitch! Changing the altenator in an 01 elantra. You have to pull it from underneath the car. But before that you have to move a few things and REMOVE THE F-ING OIL FILTER. Then and only then would it barely come out. <-----Sorry guys, but I love this one

I am going to look into trying to create an access point in the wheel well. That could make life so much easier.
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Old Oct 31st, 2005, 02:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It was #771-10695 for $45.99 from www.jegs.com. I'll be installing it this Saturday, will post how it went. Checker/Schucks was more expensive.
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Old Oct 31st, 2005, 03:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I like the access port idea. How about installing snaps, like on a tonneau cover or a coat, where the plastic pins are currently located? Hell I like this idea! The snaps would have to be either plastic or stainless steel, otherwise they would rust and be a pain. Honesly, I think that even Velcro would work if you could get it to stick reliably to the metal and flap. I din't think it would take too much.
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