It probably is, talked to a few friends about it and they said it shouldn't be a problem in normal use. But I do push it beyond the normal, time to time.
I just got an email back from greg (I had asked how much total lift the revised spacers provided) and he said the revised spacers provide 2" lift on the front and 1.5" in the rear. this sort of dissapoints me because I was hoping for 3" front and rear figuring I'd be happy with that for a while. With 2" I'm wondering if I'll be satisfied with it.
The reason for the reduction is that the A-arm hits the coil bucket (causing the clanking sound). While he said it wont damage anything they have reduced the amount of lift so that it happens much less frequently. HE also said they are working on a revised upper a-arm that will not hit the coil bucket and a replacement coil-over.
I just got an email back from greg (I had asked how much total lift the revised spacers provided) and he said the revised spacers provide 2" lift on the front and 1.5" in the rear. this sort of dissapoints me because I was hoping for 3" front and rear figuring I'd be happy with that for a while. With 2" I'm wondering if I'll be satisfied with it.
The reason for the reduction is that the A-arm hits the coil bucket (causing the clanking sound). While he said it wont damage anything they have reduced the amount of lift so that it happens much less frequently. HE also said they are working on a revised upper a-arm that will not hit the coil bucket and a replacement coil-over.
in light of recent events, i think i will wait till someone develops a better kit. i am looking for 3 inches and no more. the 5" Calmini seems excessive in my opinion.
in light of recent events, i think i will wait till someone develops a better kit. i am looking for 3 inches and no more. the 5" Calmini seems excessive in my opinion.
ditto, im with you, why spoil a perfectly good truck with an ill fitting lift..
To call the kit "ill fitting" is a bit misleading. We have well over 65 kits installed on these trucks and only a handful have the interference issues. We did extensive r&d on our Frontier kit, as we do on all of our products, and there is no conclusive reason why a few are experiencing interference issues and others have not. Another company with a similar kit has recently made changes so the problem is not just with my kit, but apparently with any spacer over 2". The Frontier has the least amount of suspension travel in the industry (about 6" vs. 9" on the Toyotas and Fords) so it is very difficult to get much lift from these trucks. We have decided to shorten our kit from over 2.5" to 2" as this is more conservative and the testing has resulted in very good results, although testing before on the taller kit yielded great results too. This kit is just less aggressive and a better set-up for all Frontiers. We are offering replacement kits for anyone that is experiencing interference issues and I will do the labor for free if they bring the vehicle to us. I have built 3.5-4" kits but that requires a custom upper control arm. We are currently working on these and they will allow more lift and/or more travel than stock. We are also working on a 2.5" coilover that will allow from 0-3" of lift. If anyone has any questions regarding the Frontier's suspension system, feel free to ask. I am very, very familiar with the workings on this truck. I don't yet advertise on this site, so please e-mail any questions about my products to greg@prerunners.com.
Sorry, Haven't been here for some time. Looks like most everything has been covered. I still have noise on bumps from the A-arms hitting the shock towers. It is not as bad as what I had originally with the 2" Stillen spacers (about 3" lift in the front). After talking with Greg, I purchased his 1st gen spacers to replace the Stillens(this was before he was making the new shorter ones he offers now). They reduced my front lift to approx 2 1/2 -2 3/4"". Also reduced the noise some because I have more clearance between the A arms and towers. But there is still some noise present, especially off-roading. I've decided to live with it as we do use our vehicle off road a lot and I really need the clearance provided by the lift and 33's. We ran a bunch of trails in Moab, including a lot of very difficult ones, and the White Rim Trail, and this combination worked well, albiet noisily. I really doubt if anyone has given this truck anywhere near as tough of a test as we did in Moab during the 8 days we were there. We could have taken an unmodified Frontier on some of the trails we ran, and it would have been quieter. But without the lift and larger tires, we definately would still be sitting high-centered on some ledge back on a lot of those trails! On the road, I get very little noise. But off-road there is lots of impact noise up front and squeeking from my rear add-a-leaf spring lift (and from the Gibson exhaust). I found Greg to be very responsive and helpful. I will not hesitate to buy from him in the future! By the way. One thing Nissan really needs to address is the diff gearing! These trucks (especially the Nismo) should come with much lower gearing (numerically higher) for improved off-road rock crawling!
To call the kit "ill fitting" is a bit misleading. We have well over 65 kits installed on these trucks and only a handful have the interference issues. We did extensive r&d on our Frontier kit, as we do on all of our products, and there is no conclusive reason why a few are experiencing interference issues and others have not. Another company with a similar kit has recently made changes so the problem is not just with my kit, but apparently with any spacer over 2". The Frontier has the least amount of suspension travel in the industry (about 6" vs. 9" on the Toyotas and Fords) so it is very difficult to get much lift from these trucks. We have decided to shorten our kit from over 2.5" to 2" as this is more conservative and the testing has resulted in very good results, although testing before on the taller kit yielded great results too. This kit is just less aggressive and a better set-up for all Frontiers. We are offering replacement kits for anyone that is experiencing interference issues and I will do the labor for free if they bring the vehicle to us. I have built 3.5-4" kits but that requires a custom upper control arm. We are currently working on these and they will allow more lift and/or more travel than stock. We are also working on a 2.5" coilover that will allow from 0-3" of lift. If anyone has any questions regarding the Frontier's suspension system, feel free to ask. I am very, very familiar with the workings on this truck. I don't yet advertise on this site, so please e-mail any questions about my products to greg@prerunners.com.
Greg,
keep us posted on the other kits for the 2nd Gen Frontier. if the travel on these trucks is as you say, then spacers would not work regardless of the size. i cant wait for what you have to offer. the titan guys are very impressed with what you offer and at the most part pleased.
What size tire will fit with the revised spacers? If someone were to go with this setup, could the modified a-arms be added later and still provide more travel?
Thanks.
(I would e-mail but I'm not at home so I cant get the response)
To call the kit "ill fitting" is a bit misleading. We have well over 65 kits installed on these trucks and only a handful have the interference issues. We did extensive r&d on our Frontier kit, as we do on all of our products, and there is no conclusive reason why a few are experiencing interference issues and others have not. Another company with a similar kit has recently made changes so the problem is not just with my kit, but apparently with any spacer over 2". The Frontier has the least amount of suspension travel in the industry (about 6" vs. 9" on the Toyotas and Fords) so it is very difficult to get much lift from these trucks. We have decided to shorten our kit from over 2.5" to 2" as this is more conservative and the testing has resulted in very good results, although testing before on the taller kit yielded great results too. This kit is just less aggressive and a better set-up for all Frontiers. We are offering replacement kits for anyone that is experiencing interference issues and I will do the labor for free if they bring the vehicle to us. I have built 3.5-4" kits but that requires a custom upper control arm. We are currently working on these and they will allow more lift and/or more travel than stock. We are also working on a 2.5" coilover that will allow from 0-3" of lift. If anyone has any questions regarding the Frontier's suspension system, feel free to ask. I am very, very familiar with the workings on this truck. I don't yet advertise on this site, so please e-mail any questions about my products to greg@prerunners.com.
Thanks for the info/update!
Last edited by 05fronty : Nov 25th, 2005 at 06:04 PM.
Okay, I took it off road and had no major issues with the PRG leveling kit or the rear lift. Yes it still makes the thump sound up front every now and then, depending on the bump. I also drove it up to Virginia for Thanksgiving, and no issues at all at highway speeds.
I'm happy with it, the thump sound is a bit annoying when driving to work because I have to go through four speed bumps going to work and three during lunch, another three returning from lunch and four going back home. Otherwise unless off roading or on a road with lots of pot holes I don't hear the thump sound too often. As long as it doesn't actually damage anything I think it works as intended, it's really easy to install as long as you have five hours to do both the front and rear install, the instructions are easy to understand, but even without the instructions you can figure it out. I read the instructions twice before starting on it and didn't look at the instructions again. I would recommend it.
The only question is can I adjust the camber? The shops around where I live would only align the toe and not the camber. So I haven't aligned the wheels yet, but hasn't affected mileage and not worried about uneven wear yet because I was going to get 33" tires after the Holidays anyway, but would like to align the wheels before putting on the new tires.
doesnt seem possible to post pics from your comp. you will either have to put it on another server like picture trail or contribute to this site for pic posting priviliges.
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