valve stem shim tool...

1fastser · Nov 23rd, 2002, 09:48 PM

I'm finally to the point where I'm installing the head on my eternal turbo project. I recently had the head worked and now I need to determine proper shim height. Problem is I don't have the special tool mentioned in the FSM. The FSM shows the tool mounting in the HLA hole. Anybody made or seen something different...like a bolt on/clamp style?

At the machine shop, I doubt that I specified the stems to be ground to the same height as that would have made it a little easier.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

laterz..Jody

lshadoff · Nov 28th, 2002, 11:01 PM

You can get them from Kent-Moore (P/N J39957-N Valve shim gauge plate kit). The kit comes with the plate, hold-down bolts, and dial indicator. You can order it over the phone.

Call them at 800-345-2233

Be sitting when you call. I'll bet the kit is expensive.

1fastser · Nov 29th, 2002, 10:26 AM

Thanks for the great info Lewis!

They're closed until Monday to observe Thanksgiving (imagine that).

I'm sure this will be a "one time use" tool so I can't see me spending a lot of money for it. But then again...

Decisions, decisions.

Thanks again.

Jody

lshadoff · Nov 29th, 2002, 06:36 PM

Hmmm. Make your fortune renting the tool. I don't know of anyone who has one. Not even Mike Kojima. 8^)

1fastser · Nov 29th, 2002, 10:33 PM

Believe me, I thought about that!

I've considered taking it to a machine shop to have them do it...seems simple enough: measure this, measure that, the difference is your shim (x8), right it down, I buy it

I'm pleased w/ my friends DSM beast completed here in Austin. I plan to check into the machine shop that was used for his car. If they want an arm then I'll probably just give Kent-Moore an arm and a leg.

Thanks again.

Jody

jbanach77 · Nov 29th, 2002, 11:36 PM

PM me and let me know just how much this tool is also, i would be interested in a purchase also cause i need to shim my stock cams in my gti-r. but when i get a beater car i am going to install my jun 280's and will need to re-shim the head again. please keep me posted!!!!!!

1fastser · Nov 30th, 2002, 06:10 AM

Will do....Jody

1fastser · Dec 2nd, 2002, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lshadoff
You can get them from Kent-Moore (P/N J39957-N Valve shim gauge plate kit). The kit comes with the plate, hold-down bolts, and dial indicator. You can order it over the phone.

Call them at 800-345-2233

Be sitting when you call. I'll bet the kit is expensive.

Called them today and they said that P/N does not exist. The gentleman also told me that they've switched to the magnetic base dial indicators.

Guess I'll check local machine shops now.

Thanks anyway...Jody

jbanach77 · Dec 2nd, 2002, 12:35 PM

if you find anything localy let me know and i will purchase one with you. cause i know that we don't have many shops around here that deals with that sort of thing.

**morepower2** · Dec 2nd, 2002, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by jbanach77
if you find anything localy let me know and i will purchase one with you. cause i know that we don't have many shops around here that deals with that sort of thing.

I borrow my friends which is a dial indicator with the rod welded to a hollowed out old HLA. It proably works better than the Kent-Moor tool.

Mike

jbanach77 · Dec 2nd, 2002, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by morepower2
I borrow my friends which is a dial indicator with the rod welded to a hollowed out old HLA. It proably works better than the Kent-Moor tool.

Mike

could you be more descriptive in your tool so i get the definitive shim sizes i need? what kind of tools do i need to get to get the readings i need? and how do i go about manually to get the shim size.

i know this sounds like i am dumb guys but i want to be 100% sure while i am doing the measuring.

Geo · Dec 2nd, 2002, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by morepower2
I borrow my friends which is a dial indicator with the rod welded to a hollowed out old HLA. It proably works better than the Kent-Moor tool.

Mike

Mike, I thought the Nissan tool was the one I saw Mike Smith using at JWT. If not, can you send me a private e-mail. I'd like to discuss this with you.

1fastser · Dec 2nd, 2002, 07:03 PM

Local machine shop price quoted $50-$75 depending on how long it takes. Said it probably won't take more than an hour. I've done work with him before also, so maybe the price will be on the lower end.
Still, it's the cheapest route I've found.

There are many dial indicators on ebay and I have several HLA's from 2 other motors. Wouldn't mind having the tool made similiar to Mike's friend. I'll ask the machinist about this when I drop off the head.

Thanks for the input.

Jody Misenheimer

Geo · Dec 2nd, 2002, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1fastser
Local machine shop price quoted $50-$75 depending on how long it takes. Said it probably won't take more than an hour. I've done work with him before also, so maybe the price will be on the lower end.
Still, it's the cheapest route I've found.

There are many dial indicators on ebay and I have several HLA's from 2 other motors. Wouldn't mind having the tool made similiar to Mike's friend. I'll ask the machinist about this when I drop off the head.

Thanks for the input.

Jody Misenheimer

Jody, what style are we talking about? Are we talking about the kind I saw at JWT or something like Mike described? I've already talked with my machinist as well about making one like they use at JWT.

jbanach77 · Dec 2nd, 2002, 10:10 PM

either way it goes keep me informed. maybe you can get a group purchase together also to further lower the price. just a thought