380 hp, my car sucks less!

**morepower2** · Nov 20th, 2002, 02:46 AM

Ok, this weekend at the SERCA dyno day I redynoed my red turbo classic using VP C16 instead of C12 like last time and got 380 hp and 353 lb/ft of torque at 21 psi.

Now my car still sucks more than any of the other turbo SE-R's I helped build or tune but at least its not quite as embarrising as before.

Its amazing, the smoother combustion of C16 was good for 12 hp over the C12. It weas not detonating before, just sounded like rough combustion.

C16 truely kicks ass, its like turbo liquid crack.

Next is 3" downpipe, Tial wastegate, O2 induction manifold, 72 lb injectors, T350 turbine, JWT C2 cams. Hopefuly a lot more power.

Mike

Nov 20th, 2002, 03:00 AM

Haha, good to hear. "C16 - It just sucks less."

**morepower2** · Nov 20th, 2002, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Zak91SE-R
Haha, good to hear. "C16 - It just sucks less."

I think a 3" downpipe and ported turbine housing make a bigger difference than headwork on these motors.

I guess we'll see how much of a difference these minor changes make soon enough.

Mike

**chimmike** · Nov 20th, 2002, 03:25 PM

Mike, are you who I think you are? If so........I'd like to talk to you a little bit about my engine.

psshhgoesmysr20 · Nov 20th, 2002, 04:20 PM

Glad to hear it Mike. Are you using a .82 ported housing or a .63?

**morepower2** · Nov 20th, 2002, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by psshhgoesmysr20
Glad to hear it Mike. Are you using a .82 ported housing or a .63?

An off the shelf unported stock 0.82 T3 housing. I think porting and extrude honing are good for around 10-15 hp and 2-400 rpm quicker spool.

Mike

1fastser · Nov 20th, 2002, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by morepower2
I think porting and extrude honing are good for around 10-15 hp and 2-400 rpm quicker spool.

Mike

Are you referring to exhaust housing only or are you including the manifold?

Can't wait to try some of that "turbo liquid crack" when it's finished.

laterz...Jody

SE-RtinMI · Nov 20th, 2002, 08:56 PM

Hmmm wanna buy some C2's? I just pulled them out. 300 shipped in the U.S. Does not include the valvetrain. vr6dub97@yahoo.com

**morepower2** · Nov 21st, 2002, 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by 1fastser
Are you referring to exhaust housing only or are you including the manifold?

Can't wait to try some of that "turbo liquid crack" when it's finished.

laterz...Jody

Exhaust housing only.

Jackson Diamond · Nov 21st, 2002, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by morepower2
Ok, this weekend at the SERCA dyno day I redynoed my red turbo classic using VP C16 instead of C12 like last time and got 380 hp and 353 lb/ft of torque at 21 psi.

Now my car still sucks more than any of the other turbo SE-R's I helped build or tune but at least its not quite as embarrising as before.

Its amazing, the smoother combustion of C16 was good for 12 hp over the C12. It weas not detonating before, just sounded like rough combustion.

C16 truely kicks ass, its like turbo liquid crack.

Next is 3" downpipe, Tial wastegate, O2 induction manifold, 72 lb injectors, T350 turbine, JWT C2 cams. Hopefuly a lot more power.

Mike

Mike, when you get the O2Induction manifold on, i think you will 400whp easy. I have ridden in Rob's with it on and it helped spool the turbo faster and the top end was sick. When we dynoed it it made like 51 peak hp overall. I sure you know that already though. Cant wait to put the prototype on my b14.

Jackson Diamond · Nov 29th, 2002, 11:59 AM

Mike do you know if it would be possible for Clarck at JWT to program an ecu for a short runner intake manifold (i.e. O2induction).

**morepower2** · Nov 29th, 2002, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Jackson Diamond
Mike do you know if it would be possible for Clarck at JWT to program an ecu for a short runner intake manifold (i.e. O2induction).

I don't think the short runner manifold will make any difference to the program, but I will test it for sure.

Mike

Jasper · Aug 3rd, 2004, 10:17 PM

i KNOW this is an OLD post...but any updates from kojima? i'm looking into one of these manifolds, but i'd like to see some trustworthy dyno numbers first (their site numbers might not be the same boost settings, etc etc.

**chimmike** · Aug 3rd, 2004, 10:56 PM

go over to sr20forum.com and see some of the older posts in there, or check www.se-r.net (the archives) there's a ton of good stuff in there too.

Mike will chime in I'm sure.

Jasper · Aug 3rd, 2004, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chimmike

go over to sr20forum.com and see some of the older posts in there, or check www.se-r.net (the archives) there's a ton of good stuff in there too.

Mike will chime in I'm sure.

i actually started another post over there about those manifolds mike

did a lot of searching, and heard a lot of stuff about a poor idle control with these manifolds. supposedly, andreas copied o2's design for his own car, and modified the manifold slightly, and claims to have a great, strong idle. i'm already going to be running S4's, but combine that lopey of an idle with a poor idle, and i'd be stalling everywhere i went. ive already PMed andreas about what he did to modifiy the o2induction manifold, but no replies as of yet, and i brough kojima's old thread back to life in hopes he may reply to it and give me some solid info

here's hoping.