» Search Used Cars
Search for used vehicles by ZIP, please enter Zipcode below:
Google Links

» Wheel & Tire Center

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Sponsors

Sponsors


Go Back   NissanForums.com :: Nissan Forum > Technical > Forced Induction & Nitrous Oxide
Register Home Forum Gallery Active Topics Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Forced Induction & Nitrous Oxide Turbocharger, supercharger, and nitrous oxide information

       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Feb 21st, 2005, 10:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
KA24DET or SR20DET best choice for car

I am researching to find the best motor swap. I am trying to stick with 4 bangers only. I want to get the best motor for the turbo setup. I dont think I'll be revving past 6k rpm. It would be nice to go to 8K, but really not needed. I need a good hp and torque range. I can start with non turbo blocks and work in my own turbo systems and EFI control, not a problem. What would be a good motor to get atleast 250-300 hp/trq from and still be reliable? It will be connected to a 5 speed.
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
asleepz
13 PSI and lovin it
 
asleepz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA Current Boost :13 PSI
Posts: 3,555
The SR and KA are both good choices. The KA would have more torque after the boost because of the larger displacement but the SR would be cheaper to get to 250 to 300HP.
__________________
1987 300ZX Turbo, 5 Speed, TurboXS H-34 BOV, WAI,
Under Construction
Clutch, Wheels, Tint, Paint, Interior, HID
asleepz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
Is the performance parts cheaper for the the SR20DE? I would be designing my own intake and EFI system, also my own exhaust for the turbo config. So I can tune those for anything. But as far as component reliability, would the stock components on the ka or sr be able to handle it? What compnents would be cheaper? Thanks for any help.
Chris
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 03:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
asleepz
13 PSI and lovin it
 
asleepz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA Current Boost :13 PSI
Posts: 3,555
I think the internals for the KA are 300HP someone correct me if I'm wrong.
__________________
1987 300ZX Turbo, 5 Speed, TurboXS H-34 BOV, WAI,
Under Construction
Clutch, Wheels, Tint, Paint, Interior, HID
asleepz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 03:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
James
in^3,N20,RPM,PSI
 
James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 4,652
www.ka-t.org

there's some KA's running more than 300hp.

on another forum I saw that the stock KA rod bent finally at like 500hp something...
__________________
05 Frontier SE CC 4x4 (6spd)
Manual Swap Parts!!! Magnaflow Muffer For Sale
James is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 04:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
If I can stick with stock internals and hit 300hp while using for a daily, that is my goal. As long as it doesn't make it a 30 second winner, then rebuild time is here. I know the big 4's have balance issues and cant reach the highest rpm. If I were to get a KA24DE and a SR20DE and install my turbo/injector system. Upgrade them side by side and reach 300hp. Which would be the best way for a daily?
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 05:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
asleepz
13 PSI and lovin it
 
asleepz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: New Orleans, LA Current Boost :13 PSI
Posts: 3,555
The KA would definately have more torque.
__________________
1987 300ZX Turbo, 5 Speed, TurboXS H-34 BOV, WAI,
Under Construction
Clutch, Wheels, Tint, Paint, Interior, HID
asleepz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 22nd, 2005, 06:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
I wouldn't spin it past 6k very much, maybe just to tap it that high for the shift points. But I need to dyno it to do that calculation first. Thats what I was thinking, definitely go for the KA24DE then. I love small motors that can rev and deliver tons of torque, that probably why my Ford has a 5.0 in it, and not a big block. Thats great if the stock bottom end of a KA can handle 300-500hp, then my only concern is the top end. I would need to get new uprated cams for sure and a port/polish on the head. Anything else I should be considering? I have a 280Z 5 speed in my 510 with the L20B. How would I need to adapt the KA24 to fit that tranny or what tranny/bell shall I use?
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 23rd, 2005, 10:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
Chillboy
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Chillboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 133
http://www.phatka-t.com/

Here's a link to some KA specialists. They are getting 500whp off a built KA.
I don't know the shop, just stumbled on the link, but worth a look.
__________________
Dyno Run Nov 03
Chillboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 23rd, 2005, 11:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
Thank for the site. Does anybody have any info on a KA24DE turbo on the specs of the hp and torque. I have stuff for the SR20DET, but nothing on the KA24DE with added turbo.
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Feb 23rd, 2005, 11:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
alexinpg
Nissan Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Alabama
Posts: 47
www.ka-t.org is your friend for these questions. Tons of answers for almost every set up you could possibly imagine.
alexinpg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 23rd, 2005, 12:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
Looking it over a bit, KA24DET with no heavy mods puts about 210-230rwHP with 8psi. Thats not too bad at all. They say they have an engine running at 560rwHP with stock components, but has an engine management system and highly tuned EFI. Thats freekin nuts. I thought my L20B was kicking ass at 130hp. Also I thought my 5.0 with 300hp was cool. The potential is amazing.
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2005, 03:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
inertial drift
NissanForums Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7
Send a message via AIM to inertial drift
the KA engine is a one of the Nissan truck. basically it's a truck engine. back then japan were debating either to drop the SR or KA. but it was unpopular back then to have turbos or anything. so then they decided to drop the KA engine as a stock. (correct me if i'm wrong, i read it off the net. it was a japanese article translated to english which was quite interesting) and i think KA performance parts are cheaper than the SR. KA has more torque than the SR. but i will go SR.
inertial drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26th, 2005, 04:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
510Mods
Think outside "The Box"
 
510Mods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 248
Send a message via Yahoo to 510Mods
What would make you go SR? If you can get more hp and torque at a cheaper cost, what more reason to go for the KA. I'm trying to justify the SR/KA fight is all, hehe. I'd sacrifice top end hp for low-mid torque anyday. Thats the stuff that holds your @ss to the seat. Have you ever been in a car where you floor the thing, and try to touch the dash but you cant? I have, and that's all torque
__________________
72 PL510,72 WPL510,63 NL320,67 RL411sss,70 PL521 CMALLMOTORSPORTS@YAHOO.COM
Providing custom fab of EFI, metal/aluminum work, engine buillds, suspension, lowrider/hydraulics/air bags, body drops/channel, and restorations for all vehicles. We make Go-Carts, trikes, choppers (V-8, V-6 builds), and mini-cars. Email me if you need or want anything. I have alot of everything. Chris
510Mods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Feb 27th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
inertial drift
NissanForums Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7
Send a message via AIM to inertial drift
for what i do i dont need that much torque.

i'm a autocross guy and rally type. it's all about time attack. =)
inertial drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  NissanForums.com :: Nissan Forum > Technical > Forced Induction & Nitrous Oxide



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
!!! KA24DET vs. SR20DET !!! MontyCrabApple SR20DE/DET Engines 242 Sep 6th, 2006 08:38 PM
SR20DET...why not KA24DE(T) drift240sxdragqueen S13 240SX 1989-1994 32 Mar 25th, 2005 08:04 PM
Weight of the KA24DE, KA24DET, SR20DE, SR20DET SonsofWisdom S13 240SX 1989-1994 0 Feb 16th, 2005 12:53 AM
HELP: DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SR20DET ENGINES? MYTHOS General 240SX/Silvia/S12 200SX 3 Jan 26th, 2005 06:48 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:45 AM.