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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 09:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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T3/T4 hybrid turbo; GA16DE; 5psi

How much horsepower do you think this setup would produce to the ground with 370cc injectors and a HKS AFR?
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How much horsepower do you think this setup would produce to the ground with 370cc injectors and a HKS AFR?
sigh........


if you dont like feeling power till 5000rpm, youll prolly get around 200hp. the 1.6 doesnt flow enough air to turn that big ass turbo.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 10:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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WAYYYY Too big a turbo for the ga16.

also at 5psi it's probably not even efficient.

also, you'd still need the 240sx MAF........intercooler, larger exhaust, blah blah.

seriously...everyone's already said what size turbos are best for the ga16.......trying to find a cheaper alternative is just not going to work.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 04:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm glad you replied so negatively because I know someone who personally is running 160 WHP and 150 lb ft of torque from his ga16de with this setup. His car starts boost at 3000 RPM.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_...31021095712262

check this link out. This is the only documentation on it.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 04:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm glad you replied so negatively because I know someone who personally is running 160 WHP and 150 lb ft of torque from his ga16de with this setup. His car starts boost at 3000 RPM.
I actually thought about a T3/T4 setup a LONG time ago, however I opted not to go with that setup for a number of reasons. You can offset the lag issue by running a smaller exhaust housing however that can also limit overall power output in the fture. Second most are not internally gated so you have the added cost and complexity of installing an external wastegate. Third the T25's and T28's can support quite a bit of power and are about the same price and make for an easier install. the money you save on the T3/T4 over a T28 (if at all) will be offset by having to purchase an external WG.

And OK great your firend is making 160 WHp with that setup. He could have made that with a T25, bought a used one and spent less money, and the install would have been easier. Oh and it would be more responsive.

Lastly if you are going to ask about setup's like this you need to specify what trim values are being used on the T3/T4 as there are MANY different configurations.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 04:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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skimmed through first few pages of that link... saw no dyno, no pictures...

he's lying out his ass... he's running 6psi... he lists in his part list on the 1st or 2nd page that he is running 8:1 compression... no way in hell that nets 160whp on a GA16DE...
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 04:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm glad you replied so negatively because I know someone who personally is running 160 WHP and 150 lb ft of torque from his ga16de with this setup. His car starts boost at 3000 RPM.

thats HORRIBLE, considering a t28 makes more than that on the 1.6
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 05:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I knew this would spark controversy. Thank god I saved the dyno sheet. I'll also find the page so you don't have to search for the dyno sheet. Plus the reason he didn't make more power is because his fuel pump maxed out during the dyno run. Since then he has upgraded the fuel pump, but he hasn't dyno'd or tuned again because of hurricane Ivan. Pay day is coming up and we are going for 180 WHP and eventually 200WHP. Yes he could have made the same power with a T25 or T28 but this kit came very cheap. His mechanic decided to sell his car and the turbo kit seperately. The mechanic needed to settle down and stuff. My criend/ cousin got the kit for under $1000 US. $60,000 JMD. So basically, we got it for a deal anyway.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 05:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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thats HORRIBLE, considering a t28 makes more than that on the 1.6
At what boost?
Plus this car hasn't even finished tuning yet. This is how it starts out.
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 05:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
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SCC project sentra turbo makes 230-240 WHP with a t28, cams, ECU, and water injection at 12 psi.
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Plus the reason he didn't make more power is because his fuel pump maxed out during the dyno run. .
My fuel pumped didn't max out at 238whp.. yes stock Nissan fuel pump.
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SCC project sentra turbo makes 230-240 WHP with a t28, cams, ECU, and water injection at 12 psi.
That's an SR20 not a GA16
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Old Sep 20th, 2004, 05:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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SCC project sentra turbo makes 230-240 WHP with a t28, cams, ECU, and water injection at 12 psi.
that's a sr20de...
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SCC project sentra turbo makes 230-240 WHP with a t28, cams, ECU, and water injection at 12 psi.

dude, you are an idiot.


seriously.......if you aren't going to listen to the 2 people with the most powerful turbo GA16s known (who use T28s and variants, and NOT gigantic t3/t4 turbos) then don't post this bs.

starts boost at 3000rpm? On a t25 you'll be at full boost probably around that or 3500 rpm and still make the same power.

that's 3000rpm of pure lag on a relatively weak motor in n/a form with a big exhaust.

really, really dumb way to go.
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