Hey guys and girls,
I did a search beforehand and couldn't find any other threads that handled this topic and it may seem stupid to some of you but I'm an engine newbie. Is it possible to supercharge and turbocharge an engine (for example on a 350Z)? Would this put too much stress on the internals? Is it just stupid to put that much force on the engine? It seems like the best of both induction and exhaust to have a super and turbo charger on an engine. Although it also seems like it would tear an engine to pieces, . So, granted, I'm sure this may be a stupid question to many but bear with me. Thanks in advance! Later,
Fletch
yes..it would def. put a major strain on the engine, and i have never seen it done...some honda kid that i skate with says he's seen one, but i dunno about those kids haha
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its been done ... i think one of last years ultimate street challenge cars had this setup. an MR2 I belive. The engine bay looked like frankensteins laboratory. Bottome line is that it is possible, but not very practical. As far as stress on the engine ... boost is boost, it doesent matter what you are using to generate it,
-dave
yes..it would def. put a major strain on the engine, and i have never seen it done...some honda kid that i skate with says he's seen one, but i dunno about those kids haha
wouldn't put any more strain on a car than any other kind of boost.
its been done ... i think one of last years ultimate street challenge cars had this setup. an MR2 I belive. The engine bay looked like frankensteins laboratory. Bottome line is that it is possible, but not very practical. As far as stress on the engine ... boost is boost, it doesent matter what you are using to generate it,
-dave
what do you mean? that having a supercharger AND a turbo is gonna put the same amount of stress on the engine as if it had only 1 of them? maybe thats possible, but only if both of the chargers only were running very low boost, 5-8psi at most...still, i dunno
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what do you mean? that having a supercharger AND a turbo is gonna put the same amount of stress on the engine as if it had only 1 of them? maybe thats possible, but only if both of the chargers only were running very low boost, 5-8psi at most...still, i dunno
thats 5-8psi at the most for EACH, not both of them combined...
someone post a pic of one...ive never seen it!!! haha
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think about it Tommy....one, you don't know what yer talking about......two: the supercharger would be roots style, providing power before turbo lag. When s/c tapers off, turbocharger takes over.
think about it Tommy....one, you don't know what yer talking about......two: the supercharger would be roots style, providing power before turbo lag. When s/c tapers off, turbocharger takes over.
That would be pretty kick ass. I'm sure I'll never have enough money to actually do this and I know I've never really heard of it being done. That's why I asked. It seems pretty unorthodox but I was just wondering why no one ever did it (besides obvious reason of money).
think about it Tommy....one, you don't know what yer talking about......two: the supercharger would be roots style, providing power before turbo lag. When s/c tapers off, turbocharger takes over.
HAHAH i know, i dont know what im talkin about...i said that before...
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I think it was 93 (not sure of the exact year and am too lazy so search March Superturbo) Nissan March Superturbo. It had a linked forced induction system that consisted of a compressor for low range and a turbo for high range both connected with some very fancy plumbing on a 1.0 or 1.3 (obviously not for the states). They were built for homologation in WRC super 1600. All paraphrased and interpreted from an UK March site. My dream for the mighty LA supercharged streetlight starts and turbocharged freeway passes in a kei car, hmmm kei car.
A turbo and supercharger is called a twincharger. How about this one guys...
It is a RB26DETTR - "R" means Supercharged and it is a Nissan (NISMO) built engine. 1500 HP never looked so beautiful.
Troy
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HKS had a kit for the old 4AGZE. It was very rare and was on a couple cars. I remember an old example making around 400 whp. You need to search on MR2.com and it's archives to find it. The theory is to use a roots style blower that builds boost off of redline and disengage it when the large turbo comes on line. Remember the 4A was a 1.6 motor, it needed ALOT of help to get a good turbo going. The stock supercharger was retained on the HKS kit, and the factory superchargers clutch was used to "turn off" the supercharger when preset boost levels were reached. Just some basic info to help you along. This is a very expensive proposition and very complex. With today's modern ball bearing GT series out there, honestly I see no use. I'd even prefer a nice sequential setup over this one.
. So, granted, I'm sure this may be a stupid question to many but bear with me. Thanks in advance! Later,
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