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Old Jul 22nd, 2003, 05:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy HELP!! White smoke after turbo-charged

After turbo-charged at 0.4bar with a front intercooler, stock injectors n a 2nd hand S14 turbo, i realise m producing alot of white smoke when high rev.Even low rev already have abit coming out. m using a SAFC2 4 air/fuel n apexi ITC with negative of 3 degree on each of the 5 knobs. Oso 2 inches exhaust without cat n a semi air-flow muffler.
Is it because of my piston ring n valve seal gone case or cause my turbo is gone case?
The installer told me its the turbo while my friend tell me its my valve seal n piston ring.
Pls help me as my dad is killing me cause of the white smoke n our authority here is very strict on this kind of white smoke case.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2003, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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could be your headgasket. those have been known to go if not upgraded when adding a turbo
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Old Jul 23rd, 2003, 03:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: HELP!! White smoke after turbo-charged

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After turbo-charged at 0.4bar with a front intercooler, stock injectors n a 2nd hand S14 turbo, i realise m producing alot of white smoke when high rev.Even low rev already have abit coming out. m using a SAFC2 4 air/fuel n apexi ITC with negative of 3 degree on each of the 5 knobs. Oso 2 inches exhaust without cat n a semi air-flow muffler.
Is it because of my piston ring n valve seal gone case or cause my turbo is gone case?
The installer told me its the turbo while my friend tell me its my valve seal n piston ring.
Pls help me as my dad is killing me cause of the white smoke n our authority here is very strict on this kind of white smoke case.
did you put a restrictor in your oil line?
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Old Jul 23rd, 2003, 11:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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oil is generally blue smoke so i wouldnt think its your rings
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 07:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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could be your headgasket. those have been known to go if not upgraded when adding a turbo
I am oso thinking of that at that moment. But even if i change the gasket, it will still be the same a few months later , right?


Now even worse. My air-con not cold n went to a local air-con man. Top up air-con gas n check the compressor n is working. But it just wont kick in when i on the air-con. The guy say no earth signal so the compressor so it wont work. Then he just put ina wire to the compressor to the body n the compressor kick in. M puzzle n have to left there 4 a few days 4 them to trouble shoot.
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 07:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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did you put a restrictor in your oil line?
Sorry bro. What do u mean by that? What i know is the fuel from my fuel filter to my fuel reguator, then to my fuel rail n then back to the fuel filter.

Oso i releaze that my oil outlet from my turbo is leaking engine oil. I think my oil seal from my turbo is gone. Will that oso contribute to the whit smoke?
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 07:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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oil is generally blue smoke so i wouldnt think its your rings
My mec told me its my piston ring too. But even if i change, will come back to square 1 , right? Cause no ppl produce this afthermaket parts 4 our car.
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you should definately upgrade tour head gasket im sure the stock one wasnt made to hold boost at any level a good metal one should do the trick if this is your problem and you wont have to worry about burning it up....dont know about your a/c though not my forte but if you have no ground it wont work obviously...dont know why they need it for 4 days
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 07:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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unless they're gonna fix your prblem altogether
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 09:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Sorry bro. What do u mean by that? What i know is the fuel from my fuel filter to my fuel reguator, then to my fuel rail n then back to the fuel filter.

Oso i releaze that my oil outlet from my turbo is leaking engine oil. I think my oil seal from my turbo is gone. Will that oso contribute to the whit smoke?
did your oil level drop too low? you say you have a leak...

oil restrictor goes in line with the oil feed line to the turbo. i think the turbo only needs like 10-20 psi of oil at the most and at high rpms without the restrictor the oil pressure is too high and will blow the seals out of the turbo. that could be the source of your leak...
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 09:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
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did your oil level drop too low? you say you have a leak...

oil restrictor goes in line with the oil feed line to the turbo. i think the turbo only needs like 10-20 psi of oil at the most and at high rpms without the restrictor the oil pressure is too high and will blow the seals out of the turbo. that could be the source of your leak...

Now i get wan u mean. I dont have a oil restrictor. My oil level haven drop yet, but have a feeling going to drop soon as i have mention that there is a leak at the outlet on the turbo. How to fixed 1 n where to find it? I dont know turbo car need to do that, bro.
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well it depends on what type of feed line you're using. if you have a stainless steel line you need to machine one from some stock. just thread one end female, one end male and drill a .060" (1mm) hole through it. it's better to use steel for this. if you have rubber lines just dont thread each end...
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 10:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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you should definately upgrade tour head gasket im sure the stock one wasnt made to hold boost at any level a good metal one should do the trick if this is your problem and you wont have to worry about burning it up....dont know about your a/c though not my forte but if you have no ground it wont work obviously...dont know why they need it for 4 days
How i wish i am in your country. My community here dont have ppl producing metal head gasket. Everything u want 4 that car need to have it as a turbo version engine, ike sr20de n sr20det, then they will be able to source 4 u the OEM parts.
So sad but what u say is quite true. Just that i thought boosting at 0.4 bar can keep everying stock including the injectors.
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Old Jul 24th, 2003, 10:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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well it depends on what type of feed line you're using. if you have a stainless steel line you need to machine one from some stock. just thread one end female, one end male and drill a .060" (1mm) hole through it. it's better to use steel for this. if you have rubber lines just dont thread each end...
Hi there. Actually i just notice that 4 my oil intake at the turbo, Its normal stainless steel line at the turbo inlet n 1 m away is the rubbler line to my engine. The rubber line is in a bigger diameter than the steel. So can this consider the oil restrictor?
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no, its too big... you need something close to a 1mm restrictor.
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