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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 08:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Nos or turbo?

This has all been asked before but I'm going to ask again.

I have a JDM sr20de as you can see at the bottom of the tread.

What I was curious about was whether or not I need to go nos or a turbo?
I was thinking of buying a NX nos system but I wanted to do it right with bottle warmer and remote bottle opener so thats gonna cost upwards to a 1100.00 (thats with everything I need fuel pump etc etc)clams So I was wondering of going nos is going to justify just paying 2500.00 for a turbo system and having the power all the time.

The other question is, using nos,whats the best shot to run on my motor? wet? dry? I was going to shoot a direct port in all the intakes but now I'm thinking 60 shot in the throttle body.

Anyway thanx guys. peace and love to all.
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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wether you go turbo or nitrous is a decision you'll have to make based on preferance. It depends on what you like more, a turbo motor or nitroused motor.
I chose nitrous because my classic is my daily driver and when the gas is off then I have the drivability and fuel economy of a n/a car.
As far as shots go - direct port is expensive but worth it. If you're going to run a shot system then definately go with a wet kit. On a wet kit you can easily run a 75 shot without upgrading your fuel pump or injectors. If you go up to a 100 shot wet then you'll have to upgrade fuel pump.
If you're looking to go turbo then you don't necessarily have to spend $2500 on a turbo kit. BB turbo kits can easily be found complete for $1200 - 1500 and JGY is now producing a BB turbo kit that comes with fmic and everything for $1800.
Basicaly it's all up to you. Just research them a little bit and decide what you want.

BTW - since you're running a JDM motor with higher compression nitrous might not be a bad idea either since it likes high compression and turbos don't (generaly - with proper tuning JDM motors are great turbo'd - just a thought).
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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 01:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A small turbo setup (t25) would work great with your setup. Fuel economy didn't suffer at all when I had the BB setup...other than the fact that I got on it more

But like 200SE said, it's all up to you. What are your goals and what do you want out of the motor?
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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 08:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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TO be perfectly honest I like the power it gives now, I love it as a matter of fact. Its not to fast but I enjoy it emmensly. The secret is chose your battles wisely and you remain that nasty little sentra that everyone talks about.

But on the other hand from a kick of 20mph an almost stock 302 mustang can't pull to hard away from me.

So basically I want 200 to 215 horsepower.

Just the power from a sr20det I would love so I think I am going to seriously think about the bb turbo setup.

Can you all give me some good links that I can look at. I have been searching but not coming up with really any good deals.

Thanx so much for help guys.

You have convinced me I want a turbo.
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Old Jun 26th, 2003, 08:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You are talking about a kit that I can bolt on to my existing DE right. Just curious,

Also what all do these kits come with do they have intercooler and everything?

And its a daily driver. I'm keeping it simple.lol
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Old Jun 27th, 2003, 11:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I LIKE THE TURBO IDEA BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POWER ALL THE TIME NOT AT A PUSH OF A BUTTON. AND IF YOU WANT MORE THEN ADD THE NOS TOO. BUT YOU BETTER BUILD THE MOTOR TO HANDLE THAT
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Old Jun 27th, 2003, 02:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On sr20deforums, there's somebody selling those kits every other day or so, at least 5-6 at a time. Those would be my recommendations. There's also a guy selling one here which I saw in person in So.Cal and it was in great condition for a good price. Its in the classifieds and his user name is SSS. He's pretty new here but has been on altimas.net for awhile. Check it out, see if it fits the bill for you. If you're looking for something more local however, just look around, you're bound to find something sometime. The buildup is not cheap btw, if you want to run safe and not push your parts to their breaking point, it's going to be a 2500-3k investment, just to tell you. If you want a breakdown, you can pm or IM me on it, as I've picked up a good amount of info
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Old Jun 27th, 2003, 03:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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jgycustoms.com is a good source of info for the turbo kits and they're very reputable. If you're looking into the BB turbo kit then you'll also want to get a Walbro 225 fuel pump and the 337 injectos (if they're not already included in the kit - I think they are). You'l also want to look into a JWT (jimwolftechnology.com) ECU.

A side note about nitrous - you don't necessarily have to follow a thousand steps to arm and use nitrous. If you have an activation switch, a WOT sensor, and a window switch then all you have to do is flip the switch and then at WOT your nitrous will automaticaly engage between your window switch's pre set RPM ranges (example - 3500rpms to 7500rpms). BTW - a 75 shot would more than put you into the 200 - 215 whp range.
Good luck with the turbo kit.
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Old Jun 27th, 2003, 09:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old Jun 29th, 2003, 08:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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it depends.... ricer or racer.... thats what you need to decide.....
Im sure you'll know which is which......
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Old Jun 30th, 2003, 12:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it depends.... ricer or racer.... thats what you need to decide.....
Im sure you'll know which is which......
Not sure that I understand why nitrous is "rice", as you put it. Care to explain.
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Old Jun 30th, 2003, 01:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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My vote is to jus drop a DET in it...
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Old Jun 30th, 2003, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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NOS or Nitrous (as it should be referred to), used in a mature and proper manner isnt rice.... but, since the release of F&F every junior high kid and his ricer older bro want 'Naaawwwsss'... Kids are slappin NOS on hooptie rides and running around bragging about how 'tricked out' their rides are....that makes NOS rice. NOS done properly is nice. But like I said, since that crappy movie, Nos is almost synonymous (sp?) with neon underbody kits and strobes.
Unless your car has other performance stuff going on to back it up, just avoid NOS. Sooo, the moral of this story is:

Man does not live by bread alone, and cars should not perform by NOS itself....
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Old Jul 1st, 2003, 10:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i guess im not rice then. ANYWAYS, i was all hardcore for a turbo setup and then sat down to think for a little bit. with a big bad turbo setup, sure the power is there all the time, but too much power and now you lose streetability and reliability. turn the boost down and you lose performance... you can find a happy medium sure, but then youre stuck with it. nitrous on the other hand, if set up correctly, will give you great mileage cuz its not on all the time, is easily upgradeable and can be safe. downsides are; its addicting, the power isnt there when the pressure is down and it can get expensive to keep the bottle filled, BUT dollar/hp the nitrous has it beat. you can have a safe, 12 sec, driveable car that has mild street manners for a daily driver. ultimately, the choice is yours. just depends on how deep your pockets are and where your priorities as far as a daily driver go.
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sure the power is there all the time
u can drive a turbo car likes its NA, and never get into boost unless u want to. a turbo setup will also give u good gas mileage if u drive like an old lady

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but too much power and now you lose streetability and reliability
thats nonsense . u dont lose streetablility and reliability with a "big bad turbo setup". its all about the components u use and more importantly who tunes it. i know plenty of people with 400+whp (on pump gas, 91-93 octane) turbo cars that run aftermarket engine management systems and the cars drive just like "stock" cars.
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