which supercharger?

})roppedSX · Apr 21st, 2003, 06:10 PM

looking into putting a supercharger for my 1.6 200sx. Any sugestions.

please!

**chimmike** · Apr 21st, 2003, 07:45 PM

lol! www.usethesearchbuttonnewbie.ok? do you know why you want a supercharger instead of a turbo? Do you know anything about superchargers?

khemicol · Apr 21st, 2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by chimmike
lol! www.usethesearchbuttonnewbie.ok? do you know why you want a supercharger instead of a turbo? Do you know anything about superchargers?

What the hell is all the about???

Obviously he is new here. Give him a break. Also why do you ask such a dumb question at the end??? I mean, do you know about Turbos? I bet you dont. Stop dissing people. You think your shit doesnt stink but it does. Im through with you.

})roppedSX, Superchargers arent really made for our cars. If you dont want, you can go custum or you can contact HotShot Performnance and ask about the turbo kits they sell for the 1.6. You can also get oin touch with Jim Wolf Technologies for a plug and play ECU for the turbo setup. Run a quick search on here and youll find more info plus a few pics of turbo'd 1.6's.

Goodluck,

Khem

Bumpin · Apr 22nd, 2003, 06:56 PM

I agree. The best supercharger out there is the Vortech and they are mostly for american cars, or like the Honda Shitvic only cuz the honda needs a big boost in performance as we all know. Now turbo on the other hand is pretty much made for our nissans cuz nissan already makes a decent amount of power, but a little more wouldnt hurt.

**chimmike** · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:18 PM

turbo lag gives us a chance to get some traction before the tires break loose again

mpg9999 · Apr 22nd, 2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Bumpin240sx
I agree. The best supercharger out there is the Vortech and they are mostly for american cars, or like the Honda Shitvic only cuz the honda needs a big boost in performance as we all know. Now turbo on the other hand is pretty much made for our nissans cuz nissan already makes a decent amount of power, but a little more wouldnt hurt.

Are you saying superchargers are better for all out power and turbo's are better for a smaller gain? If you are, thats not correct...

khemicol · Apr 23rd, 2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by mpg9999
Are you saying superchargers are better for all out power and turbo's are better for a smaller gain? If you are, thats not correct...

Somewhat.

When you have a supercharger, since its driven off the belts, you have boost as soon as you step on the gas. its good because its instant power but if you have too much power, when you launch your gonna be burning out instead of moving. With a turbo you have to wait until it spools. This gives you a reagular launch and a short peiod in time until the turbo kicks in. Now the biggest and best reason to have a turbocharger rather than a supercharger is you can adjust the boost a hell of alot easier rather than having to change the belt driven pulley on the supercharger. You cant just push a button when your at the red light and switch into high boost.

About the gians, that depends on the size of the pulley you use on the supercharger, or the size of the turbo.

Hope this helps,

Khem

James · Apr 23rd, 2003, 11:30 AM

also turbos are more efficient... unlike larger displacement engines, our engines usually peak in power very high in the rpms making a supercharger relatively useless...

**chimmike** · Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:00 PM

depends on what supercharger you get.

there are certain setups you can get that will act sort of like a turbo, in essence that it creates max boost at higher rpm instead of right off the bat. I'm thinking roots type? Maybe centrifugal, but I'm not quite sure. I know there's someone on the boards that knows the difference,

but either way...............it's just as hard to install a supercharger as a turbo, in this case, being that there are no specific supercharger apps for the 1.6.

Also what Khem said is true...........the supercharger will aid you in smoking out your tires in 2 days, whereas turbo will give you a chance to get some traction before boost kicks in.

James · Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:02 PM

no generally turbos will always be more efficient because there is no parasitic loss AND wasted exhaust gas energy is recycled to compress the air.

**chimmike** · Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:17 PM

I never said turbo wasn't efficient.........................I was just saying some s/c setups can be made to optimize boost in top end

James · Apr 23rd, 2003, 01:20 PM

oh... sorry (doing physics homework, didn't read carefully). yeah I guess if you change pulley size you can determine when the boost comes on.

tcn311 · Apr 23rd, 2003, 06:57 PM

hey james how is the automatic turbo for the GA16DE, what size turbo and any dynos or appox hp to the wheel

James · Apr 23rd, 2003, 07:08 PM

See my other post! I'm done and the auto doesn't feel any different, just faster!!!

mpg9999 · Apr 23rd, 2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by James
no generally turbos will always be more efficient because there is no parasitic loss AND wasted exhaust gas energy is recycled to compress the air.

That is not why turbo's are more effecient (if by efficient, you mean compressor efficiency.) The august 2001 issue of SCC has an excellent comparison of turbochargers v. superchargers, writen by Mike Kojima. I would suggest reading that if your interested.