Sounds like a good setup, the only limiting factor is the 440 injectors. You will overpower them at 3 bar fuel pressure.
As I stated in a PM I ran a 12.73 @ 107.8 MPH in 2007. Another member here (1.6 SE-R) had a hot shot turbo kit equipped (standard T28) B13 that ran a 12.2X IIRC. His car was significantly lightened and he was trapping around 110MPH.
There was a GA16 car on a stock bottom end GA16DS overseas that made 330ish WHP but I never saw a 1/4 time slip for that car. So AFAIK the documented record (here anyway) is 12.2. Personally I do not think that is hard to beat on a properly built car with some weight reduction. You won't have to worry about competition from me, the drag passes were a one time thing done for NPM back in the day. Since then brake and suspension upgrades will keep me from running slicks.
no i did not break a rod, but i did replace them, and i know by looking at them, they are insufficient for any significant power. they are forged, but they are only roughly 1/2" wide....do not try to make substantial power with these it will go badly. Some of the smallest rods i have ever seen.
no i did not break a rod, but i did replace them, and i know by looking at them, they are insufficient for any significant power. they are forged, but they are only roughly 1/2" wide....do not try to make substantial power with these it will go badly. Some of the smallest rods i have ever seen.
What do you consider significant? I agree they are small however there are several 250+ whp GA16's running around on a stock bottom end and at least one that has made over 300WHP.
i would consider over 300 significant, i know that someone did make over 300 with it, but i doubt it made that power for very long with those rods. maybe a few runs on the dyno and a couple of runs on the strip, but its impossible to call those rods reliable at that power. i ran about 250hp with the stock rods on my old set-up and no stress fractures or anything when i pulled them out, but the amount of material on those things scares me that they hold up to that at all. i admit, nissan engineering is the stuff, and i can't believe they hold up as long as they do, but to go over 300 with them seems to just beg for trouble.
i would consider over 300 significant, i know that someone did make over 300 with it, but i doubt it made that power for very long with those rods. maybe a few runs on the dyno and a couple of runs on the strip, but its impossible to call those rods reliable at that power. i ran about 250hp with the stock rods on my old set-up and no stress fractures or anything when i pulled them out, but the amount of material on those things scares me that they hold up to that at all. i admit, nissan engineering is the stuff, and i can't believe they hold up as long as they do, but to go over 300 with them seems to just beg for trouble.
The guys that made over 300WHP are from Chile, In know them from other forums and the car was used every day for some years until last year that they swaped a SR20 and sold the GA16 still working correctly.
The car was a Nissan Almera and it was faster than Imprezas and Evolutions.
The latest dyno gave out a figure of 360WHP. They where using methanol or water injection. Ill try to look for more info to show you guys, there are some videos on youtube.
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KYB AGX shocks, custom springs
NX2000 brakes on 4 corners of the car.
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ok i guess i am proved wrong, it still scares the crap out of me to use those rods, but if it works, then go for it. as for me i will stick with my pauter's. I did read a review some time back of the GA16 by Bob Legere in 1999 an engine builder who was building a naturally aspirated road course GA. and i specifically remember him talking about how that motors weak link was the connecting rods, so i am going on some other oppinions other than my own. anyway i am about to put a new block and pistons/ head gasket in the car, so i will try to get some pics up before i tear it all to heck.
Here I found some videos of that car.
It was running at 25psi at this time and doing 340 WHP. All Stock engine as they told me some time ago and as you can read on the coments of the second video. Maybe they used race fuel, i dont know that.
cool video, thats some crazy boost on what a gt28rs i assume, i know they've got to be getting some crazy blow by with stock rings though. Did i see an SAFC...WTF?!?, why
cool video, thats some crazy boost on what a gt28rs i assume, i know they've got to be getting some crazy blow by with stock rings though. Did i see an SAFC...WTF?!?, why
Im pretty sure he gets some blow by and even knocking, but it goes very fast!!
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KYB AGX shocks, custom springs
NX2000 brakes on 4 corners of the car.
Garret T25 Coming Soon....
Alright like i promised i have some pics of the car. I hope they will open, i couldnt figure out how to make them show up on the thread. My phone doesnt take wonderful pictures, so i hope you can see what you need to. I took the pictures of the engine bay right after i power washed it, so you are seeing all the accumulated water, not oil or anything cause that would be crappy and uncouth. Let me know what ya'll think.
hey another thing, does anyone know of a guy running i think a gold four door B14 around Daytona Beach with a turbo GA16DE maybe?, cause my friend saw one driving the other day here but never saw the engine bay or talked to the guy and i was intertested. If you do know him let me know ide look to hook up with him and have a duo of turbo powered GAs on the streets of Daytona.
Looks pretty good so far. I do have a question though, does the car run OK in it's current state? I ask because of the MAF placement. Depending on which MAF that is many people that have ran blow through turbo SR20 setups had to keep the MAF further away from the TB. If it works for you that's great but if you start having drivability issues you ma want to look at that.
well it did run well, until i scratched the cylinder wall and put worn down original pistons in. Im fixing that this coming week. But yes i have had the MAF set there for a while with no problems, It runs much nicer in fact and if a develop a vacuum leak it is much easier to find because it can only come from one coupler. I had it set before the intake of the turbo on my old setup, but the way it is now, the car likes much better. Im not sure why that is, but im not complaining, lol. Also it enables me to run a real blow off valve instead of a recirc and it allowed me to block off the idle speed sensor air intake without the car falling on its face when the RPMs drop. another mystery i can't find an explanation for, but nonetheless its working. Im glad the pictures opened as well. Oh and to answer yopur other question it is just the stock MAF. The AEM FIC allows me to change MAF settings, so there is no need to upgrade to a different MAF. In fact I am working on a fuel map that just runs from the onboard MAP sensor so i can get rid of the MAF altogether. Its a little finicky, but its getting there.
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mine should be back together this weekend , got the hp kit for it wiseco pistons and copper head gasket,i got the stock crank the rods/bolts and the wiseco pistons cyrogenic treated. using gt28rs msd 50lb injectors with cobra maf, jwt tuned ecu , jgy fuel rail, areospeed fpr. lookin for 330 340ish . will post pics later for u all
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, got the hp kit for it wiseco pistons and copper head gasket,i got the stock crank the rods/bolts and the wiseco pistons cyrogenic treated. using gt28rs msd 50lb injectors with cobra maf, jwt tuned ecu , jgy fuel rail, areospeed fpr. lookin for 330 340ish 
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