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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Installed jwt ecu , turbo cams and 370 injectors....big problem

ok so i just got done installing the jwt ecu, 240sx maf, 300zx injectors, and turbo cams...i thought the install was rather easy...so i go to start the car up.. runs fine so i let it idle at 2k rpm like the directions say..after about 5 min.. white smoke is POURING out of my exhuast... it also started to come out of the header where the secondary pipe gets connected..you can smell the gasoline... no engine light comes on.. nothing.. i turn it off.. and thats it car will not turn over. i double checked EVERYTHING.. i took the valve cover gasket off.. and the cams look like as if they always were there.. i installed them exactly how the old ones looked.. all the markings match up. im lost everyong.. what can it possible be?
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 01:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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did you use new o rings on the injectors? might want to check those out there..
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 02:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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did you use new o rings on the injectors? might want to check those out there..

yeah.. i have brand new injectors, and both orings where replaced....
is it possible that they may have not seated well ? when i say smoke was pouring out.. i mean it filled the driveway the white smoke poured from my muffler and it was comint out of the header and you could smell the gas
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah.. i have brand new injectors, and both orings where replaced....
is it possible that they may have not seated well ? when i say smoke was pouring out.. i mean it filled the driveway the white smoke poured from my muffler and it was comint out of the header and you could smell the gas

classic signs of bad o rings..its a bit tricky to try seating the injectors without damaging the rings..try taking the injectors off and checking the rings.
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white smoke is either oil or coolant burning, not gas.......
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 09:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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white smoke is either oil or coolant burning, not gas.......

its not oil nor is it coolant..when i say you can smell gasloline my house smelt like a gas station.. keep in mind this was 10pm at night when i was done all iknow is ALOT of smoke was comin out of the muffler...it was gas no doubt about it
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i ran rich as hell too when i had 370's and jwt with no turbo. everyone says its ok to run like that for a few days, but i found it to be NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. i put in my turbo kit and the richness went away. not saying this is 100% of your problem currently, but your gonna run rich as hell with 370's and no turbo. period.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 11:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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10 pm and it was white smoke?
Maybe you are in an area where it is clear at 10 pm but where I live it is dark and I wouldn't be sure if it was white smoke...
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well unless you're using some magic gas...gas smoke is NOT white. Oil or coolant will burn whitish smoke.

Gas will be black.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 12:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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no oil burns black also... any hydrocarbon burns black.. oil... un-burned gas (cO).. coolant/water burns white.
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Maybe you need a retune for the bigger injectors?
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oil burns blue... out the tail pipe..coolant burns white..and gas also burns white out the tail pipe when youre DUMPING fuel..i know this for a fact because this happened to me..
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 03:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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oil burns blue... out the tail pipe..coolant burns white..and gas also burns white out the tail pipe when youre DUMPING fuel..i know this for a fact because this happened to me..
Also, when you burn coolant it smells like rotten eggs. It is the nastiest shit when you get stuck driving behind a car that is burning coolant.
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I've never once seen burning gas burn white. everyone I've ever met says too much fuel spews black smoke.
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Old Aug 22nd, 2005, 10:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've never once seen burning gas burn white. everyone I've ever met says too much fuel spews black smoke.
i am well aware of the colors that come from certain thigns being burned... ive known this even before i had a car. theres no way i am burning coolant or oil...i started the car at about 10pm.. so it was dark.. but smoke poured.. i mean it was THICK smoke and it was a white/gray color.. it ws fuel..you could smell the fuel from acroos the street.. i was dumping fuel like crazy.. i know this cuase my gas gauge went down a quarter of a tank.. when we were breaking in the cams.. at first it ran fine.. no smoke.. then it began to pour.. even out the header at the point of connection with the secondary piping. fuel came out in liquid form.. yeah the car still ran.. but smoke was coming out like crazy. it is NOT coolant.. nor is it OIL. if your dumping substansial amounts of fuel like i am. ur not gonna see black smoke.

regardless.. my main concern is what could be the problem.. the injectors are new.. i just got the ecu and cams.. cams work fine..the look fine.. everything SOUNDED perfect it started.. even with the smoke.. it was running fine just smokey. but now.. it won't start. so im confused on what i should do? should i just go ahead and complete the turbo installation hoping the added air will help this smoking problem? or should i take the fuel rail out and injectors and double check them? is there a way to check to make sure all injectors are working properly.. as i have heard sometimes they can get stuck and just spray fuel non stop?.. i am in need of ideas.. as this is my only mode of transportation...
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