E16S Carburated Turbo

dburone · Apr 7th, 2004, 10:52 AM

How much boost can i give this engine on stock internals?
How much HP can i gain without losing reliability? I would like to reach at least 140 HP is it posible?

Thanks

Myetball · Apr 7th, 2004, 03:47 PM

Hahaha....that was pretty funny

There's a guy on the forum that has an E16 putting out around 140hp....cost over 7k to build.

turbob12 · Apr 8th, 2004, 01:53 AM

7 grand for a 140 hp e-16? I know if i had that much to put into my e-16 it would make a hell of alot more than that! Probably close to 400 hp,there is a guy on the N12 turbo sight making around 350 hp.I'm in the process of building a turbo e-16 right now it should make 140 hp no problem.Check out Blown 310's e-16 if i remember it was making 150 hp N/A and the car was going something like 14.10 in the 1/4 mile.Blown's car would sure give the N12 turbo guys something to think about.With a little tweaking he could probably get his car on their top ten list without a turbo!Good job Blown!

Myetball · Apr 8th, 2004, 05:58 AM

Alot of us were skeptical about the 7k figure until we saw pics of the motor. It's not a turbo btw. 140hp is a guesstimate....have yet to see it in the car and/or on the dyno. There's also some nice pics around here somewhere of some awesome aussy E15ET's.

Gsolo · Apr 8th, 2004, 12:59 PM

you may be able to make 140hp with turbo, but it won't be reliable. But don't let anything discourage you if you really want to shoot for it.

B11sleeper · Apr 8th, 2004, 01:19 PM

yeah unless you really want an E16 motor, there are way cheaper ways to get more power/turbo. CA18det comes to mind.

MyClunkyAss12er · Apr 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM

e15et with good work can make 180hp reliably? atleast thats what im shottin for!

Myetball · Apr 8th, 2004, 09:35 PM

I would recommend againt a carbed turbo engine simply because the carb could not maintain the fuel flow necessary for boost. You'd probably end up getting real lean on the top end and burning up your pistons.

However, swapping on an E15ET head, intake manifold, and fuel system would probably be workable. If you kept stock compression you'd be flirting with disaster. It may be more economical to drop in an E15ET.

turbob12 · Apr 9th, 2004, 12:22 AM

Turbo motors are reliable otherwise they would have never been put on production vehicles by almost every manufacturer.As for fuel systems injection is the best but you are limited with the factory set up and an aftermarket engine management system cost a fortune thats why I will be using a carburetor,a holley 4 barrel the secondaries will supply plenty of fuel if you dont think so go to the turbo mustang web site and check out how much power they are making with carburetors and turbos you wont believe it.The site has plenty of good information about turbocharging that can be used on any motor not just Fords.I know everyone reading this is thinking a 4 barrel on an E-16? Thats right,thanks to Blown 310 and his research on how a 2000 Ford Pinto intake manifold will work on an E-series I went a step farther and located a rare Spearco 4 barrel Pinto intake that I willbe using along with a holley 4 barrel by using the holley I will beable to use already available carb hats,etc. since it will be a blow thru system.This motor is an experiment Im not sure what will happen but I dont think the Honda guys are goingto like it Im giving them enough trouble already with just a holley/weber carb.,lightened flywheel,2" exhaust,and stage one weight removal. I dont have anything against Hondas and havebeen spanked pretty good a couple of times thats why im going turbo,but i cant help but wonder what the guys in the civics and integras that I have beat were thinking when a lowly stock looking Sentra was pulling away!

Gsolo · Apr 9th, 2004, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by turbob12

Turbo motors are reliable otherwise they would have never been put on production vehicles by almost every manufacturer.As for fuel systems injection is the best but you are limited with the factory set up and an aftermarket engine management system cost a fortune thats why I will be using a carburetor,a holley 4 barrel the secondaries will supply plenty of fuel if you dont think so go to the turbo mustang web site and check out how much power they are making with carburetors and turbos you wont believe it.The site has plenty of good information about turbocharging that can be used on any motor not just Fords.I know everyone reading this is thinking a 4 barrel on an E-16? Thats right,thanks to Blown 310 and his research on how a 2000 Ford Pinto intake manifold will work on an E-series I went a step farther and located a rare Spearco 4 barrel Pinto intake that I willbe using along with a holley 4 barrel by using the holley I will beable to use already available carb hats,etc. since it will be a blow thru system.This motor is an experiment Im not sure what will happen but I dont think the Honda guys are goingto like it Im giving them enough trouble already with just a holley/weber carb.,lightened flywheel,2" exhaust,and stage one weight removal. I dont have anything against Hondas and havebeen spanked pretty good a couple of times thats why im going turbo,but i cant help but wonder what the guys in the civics and integras that I have beat were thinking when a lowly stock looking Sentra was pulling away!

for the most part factory turbos are reliable. turbocharging a factory na engine is not always reliable because that particular engine was never made to handle that stress. example: CA18DET can handle tons of boost...but the CA20E normally can not handle as much boost because it was never meant to handle it. BUT, you can modify so that it will take it.

And the only problem with using a carb is that you have to ahve the carburetor sealed or else you won't get very good working engine. and yeah, that little 4 bbl might be ok, but i personally think you would have been better off going with a two barrel, such as a little 2GC or something.

And I also believe you'd be better off with MPFI, but again don't let me discourage you. If you make the carb work then awesome! alot of people appreciate that because you're running computerless.

this is all just my opinion by the way. yousound like you know what you're doing, but like i said carb has to be sealed if you're blowing through the carb. if you suck through the carb it doesn't have to be sealed.

AVERAGE · Apr 9th, 2004, 04:07 AM

okay,i have to ask; where the hell is crazy mart? i ve been waiting on him to chime in on quite a few threads and i just realized that hasnt been around in atleast 3 months. Web, were is he?

dburone · Apr 12th, 2004, 02:35 PM

Well, i´m not sure what to do, i would love to have a ca18det but they are hard to find.
I´m thinking about making some kind of supercharger with low pressure, about 7psi.

minute rice sentra · Apr 12th, 2004, 05:31 PM

The CA's aren't really all that hard to find unless you're looking for something local. I see 'em on ebay all the time, even a RWD will work, you'd just have to swap some stuff over from an SE pulsar.

Myetball · Apr 12th, 2004, 06:17 PM

Here's some places that have a reputation for selling good motor sets or clips:

http://www.dragdriftautox.com/

http://www.soshinusa.com/

http://www.jhotexports.com/index.htm

http://www.jarcoinc.com/

http://www.nippon-motors.com/index.htm

Most of the info I gathered from these places is from guys buying CA18DET motors/clips.