CA16DE engine swap to CA18DET or SR20DET?

CA16DE · Mar 4th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Hi, I am planning for an engine swap from CA16DE to CA18DET or SR20DET, but i was confused between those two. The car is Sentra Sport Coupe Hatchback year 1990,FWD, chassis type B12(maybe the chassis number is KEB12-CO5663) Which one is better for my car? I noticed that CA18DET will bolt on CA16DE but will SR20DET bolt on CA16DE? Can you guys help me out, giving me a good and right solution.THX

Gsolo · Mar 4th, 2004, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CA16DE

Hi, I am planning for an engine swap from CA16DE to CA18DET or SR20DET, but i was confused between those two. The car is Sentra Sport Coupe Hatchback year 1990,FWD, chassis type B12(maybe the chassis number is KEB12-CO5663) Which one is better for my car? I noticed that CA18DET will bolt on CA16DE but will SR20DET bolt on CA16DE? Can you guys help me out, giving me a good and right solution.THX

Let's not get carried away with "bolt on".

First, try searching cause it's been answered many many times.

Second, CA E and GA's all have the same motor mountings. SR will have to be fabricated in.

Thirdly, don't get carried away with "bolt on" cause you have to do computer too.

Myetball · Mar 4th, 2004, 10:00 PM

Actually, a JDM or non-USDM B12 coupe with a stock CA16DE will convert to a CA18DET quite easily. It is a bolt-in deal. The CA16 and CA18 engines are virtually identical, just some internal differences, i.e. bore stroke. The SR20DET is another aminal, the term bolt-in does not apply.

Yes the computer will need to be upgraded to run the CA18DET but it should be plug-n-play as long as the donor car is FWD.

minute rice sentra · Mar 4th, 2004, 10:18 PM

Hey myet, on my pulsar the ECU connectors aren't one long connector like the DET ECU's Iv'e seen, there are 4 or 5(can't remember) connectors for the ECU. I thought the SE pulsar's harness was DET friendly?

CA16DE · Mar 5th, 2004, 07:41 AM

Well i was planning to buy a full set engine so it will include ECU,wiring harness, tranny...so i don't think i have to worry about the computer thingies right?the seller also guaranteed that the engine is running well when i buy them...One thing that confuses me is that the seller said SR20DET engine is always a RWD or AWD, there is no SR20DET in FWD, is it true?
will a CA tranny fit SR's engine?boost_boy wrote that CA16DE's tranny won't hold long if installed with CA18DET..Thx for the reply

CA16DE · Mar 5th, 2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Myetball

Actually, a JDM or non-USDM B12 coupe with a stock CA16DE will convert to a CA18DET quite easily. It is a bolt-in deal. The CA16 and CA18 engines are virtually identical, just some internal differences, i.e. bore stroke. The SR20DET is another aminal, the term bolt-in does not apply.

will it take a lot of work and mods to change a CA16DE to SR20DET?

oh...i forgot to ask...i know that CA16DE is a good engine, but can you guys tell me how good it is?how about CA18DET...i asked this b'coz i am concerned with reliability

minute rice sentra · Mar 5th, 2004, 09:38 AM

if you want the SR you have to use a SR20DE tranny. CA's and SR's tranny's aren't interchangable. If you want to go CA18 but don't think the tranny will hold just get a CA18DE tranny from a SE pulsar.

Myetball · Mar 5th, 2004, 05:13 PM

CA18DET is considered to be a rock solid engine. The term "bullet proof" has been assiciated with the CA18DET.

If you're going to get a complete engine set, you should also get the CA18DET transmission. Being in indonesia I don't think you're going to find any Pulsar SE's

But you may find an EXA or a B12 1.8i. Your best bet is just to get the complete engine/transmission when you buy.

minute rice sentra · Mar 5th, 2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Myetball

Being in indonesia I don't think you're going to find any Pulsar SE's

HAHA, maybe I need to pay more attention

Gsolo · Mar 5th, 2004, 08:08 PM

All CA's are bulletproof. I've put a CA20E through hell and back. Anyhow, I was just going to ask you guys if the transmission from a stanza (w/ca20) would still be able to use the same half shafts my pulsar has now...or would I have to swap to stanza shafts and hubs?

Reason I ask, is that although I know i can get the 50A from a pulsar se i'd rather have the 51A from a stanza.

Edit: Or should I start a different thread for this question

I seem to unintentionally jack threads

Second Edit: Thought I'd just make a point that CA18DET is more bullet proof cause it has girdle, and different main caps i think.

Third Edit: happy 1000 minute rice

(i'm bored)

minute rice sentra · Mar 5th, 2004, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gsolo

Third Edit: happy 1000 minute rice

(i'm bored)

Thanx!!!

Ok, anyways, I'd definitely have to say that the CA is extremely reliable after seeing Dee(boostboy) push more than 300 hp out of one without any complaints from the engine! I look forward to heavily modding my CA before and after I get it installed. Sorry I can't help ya with the CA20 stuff

CA16DE · Mar 6th, 2004, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Myetball

If you're going to get a complete engine set, you should also get the CA18DET transmission. Being in indonesia I don't think you're going to find any Pulsar SE's

But you may find an EXA or a B12 1.8i. Your best bet is just to get the complete engine/transmission when you buy.

I don't think i ever heard of B12 1.8i. btw what is EXA?yap i was planning of buying a full set engine..
Can i mod my ca16de tranny with gears from ca18det?so that my tranny will act and fits a ca18det??

Myetball · Mar 6th, 2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CA16DE

I don't think i ever heard of B12 1.8i. btw what is EXA?yap i was planning of buying a full set engine..
Can i mod my ca16de tranny with gears from ca18det?so that my tranny will act and fits a ca18det??

In Europe and South Africa B12's were available with a CA18DE and had a 1.8i badge on them. The EXA is the U.S. KN13 Pulsar.

Not sure if the CA16 tranny will take the CA18 gears but why not just use the CA18 tranny. It will bolt right in to your engine bay. If you have a cable clutch you'll have to convert to hydraulic for the CA18 but it's not that difficult, all the parts will bolt right on to your car.

CA16DE · Mar 7th, 2004, 12:24 AM

hmmm it's pretty difficult to order a ca18det, the importer said it might be a rare engine..can you guys help me find someone who wants to deliver it to indonesia?oh one more thing can you tell the car name which powered by ca18det FWD ?and the country who sell them?

CA16DE · Mar 7th, 2004, 12:32 AM

it's pretty easy to find a SR20DET in indonesia, many importer imports it, but i was confused with red top, black top, etc and the main problem SR20DET comes in RWD, is there any SR20DET use FWD?what car and what year?
will i be able to put the SR engine n tranny to my B12 chassis?since i dunno the dimension and i don't want to make to much mods n weldings in my car..hehehe since my car is 90% original....