Ok here is the thing I have or "I am stuck with" an 87 Nissan Sentra 4 door sedan. It has an E16s carbed engine and it runs great no problems so far, around 120k miles.
Well besides all the obvious upgrades I am going to do on it Holly Carb, Headers, exaust, cam, ignition, K&N Filter, I would like ,to put a turbo, supercharger or NOS, in it but they dont make a plate syestem for my carb.
So what should I do.. I am gonna run this engine till it dies and then do the SR20DET SWAP ON IT.
So I really dont care if 10,000 miles down the road after I put some kind of forced induction on it it craps... just want to know if I can do it!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY INFO FOR ME AT ALL THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY AWESOME.... OR IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS THAT I SHOULD TRY ON MY CAR.... LET ME HAVE THEM AND I WILL RUN WITH IT!!!
If you have an e16s, you could try doing a blow throu carb setup... in conjonction with the e15t turbo exhaust manifold and T2 you could be horsing about 25hp more (maybe)... but you wont be able to run high boost on this engine because of the 9.4:1 compression ratio : it wont be 10000miles if you go above 4 lbs !! without changing the jet in he carb.... Have fun !!
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Sentra Sport Coupe 87 Turbo
14.850@97.454mph
H&R Spring, 15psi, TMIC, 370cc, Nismo mount and pulley, Almasi tuned ecu...
Originally posted by mattster79 I would like ,to put a turbo, supercharger or NOS, in it but they dont make a plate syestem for my carb.
***** Back in the '80's I had an NOS Powershot plate system for a square bore Holley 4 bbl. carb flange. I wanted one for a Q-jet spread bore setup on my '70 442 Olds. [What's this Blown had an Olds? ]. What I did was get a 1/2" thick piece of aluminum, and made my own plate. I traced the carb base gasket and cut out a piece of aluminum plate to match. I then measured the size of the brass tubing in the NOS plate and went down to my local hobby shop and bought a length of the same size. I copied the size of the little holes in the "spraybars" [the tubing] and drilled them the same on my tubing. Then I drilled the plate out and installed the tubes. I epoxied the ends to seal them. Then you simply hook up the rest of the inexspensive Powershot kit and [as Martin would say] Viola! You have a B12 nitrous kit. In your case, I would reduce the number of spraybar orifices in half, as you're only feeding a 4 cyl. engine, when the kit was made for 8.
Or......... you can consider finishing this project I started a while back: How about a blower for your E16? I almost finished this project a few years ago, but then ran into a snag. What you see here is a KF Industries 70 c.i. two-lobe roots blower unit. This unit is sold as a universal piece of speed equiptment, that requires you to fabricate all of the necessary parts to install it yourself. I started out by designing and building the blower drive system. I decided to use a genuine Nissan timing belt for the job. I utilized a stock E16 cam timing sprocket. I needed to attach it to the crank damper. I picked out the lightweight single groove v-belt pulley from the Motorsport catalog. as shown. Next, I had my Dad machine a steel spacer to graft the timing gear to the flange of the pulley. Then I could install the three tapered allen screws to attach the cam gear to the spacer. An extra length crank damper bolt clamps it all together.
Next, I had to start fabbing the blower intake. Note: [This is a picture of a print pic, hence the warped appearance]. I used 3/16" aluminum plate, and machined out the ports openings and drilled the mounting holes. Next I sawed off the flange from a stock E16 intake to mate to the intake plenum. I cut out some gussets for rgidity as well. I test fitted it to an E16 that was sitting in an '87 sport coupe I had. Clearance to the fireall was extremely close. The heater hoses would have to be re-routed. In any case, when I had everything the way I liked it, I took the manifold to my heliarc man. He looked it over and said that the thickness of the aluminum plate I used was insufficient. He told me it would have warped from the heat of the welding. I realized he was right. I should have made it out of a least 1/4" thick stock or more. At that point I ran out of steam on the project. But all is not lost. I have new plans to start over and install this blower on my '84 CA20 engine. Stay tuned.....
Originally posted by Crazy-Mart If you have an e16s, you could try doing a blow throu carb setup... in conjonction with the e15t turbo exhaust manifold and T2 you could be horsing about 25hp more (maybe)... but you wont be able to run high boost on this engine because of the 9.4:1 compression ratio : it wont be 10000miles if you go above 4 lbs !! without changing the jet in he carb.... Have fun !!
Ok great the turbo set up sounds pretty good.. I have a T1 Garret turbo ingreat condition just waiting to be mounted and boosted!!..
So how would you create a blow through design with a carb? That one has got me stumped, I am sure its pretty simple. Anyone care to elaborate on that??
Originally posted by blownb310 ***** Then you simply hook up the rest of the inexspensive Powershot kit and [as Martin would say] Viola! You have a B12 nitrous kit. In your case, I would reduce the number of spraybar orifices in half, as you're only feeding a 4 cyl. engine, when the kit was made for 8.
Now this sounds do-able!!
One Question would you have to calibrate the carb to handle the more fuel and would you have to retard the timing, and get a NOS management system and colder plugs?
I am assuming this would be a simple DRY NOS kit as well right?
I actually think I may do this one... now I am off to EBAY to find a good fogger kit!!
The super charger sounds pretty darn cool but I think that is a little more fab work than I am capable of doing!!... Let me know if it works out for you!!
By the way guys all this information has been greatly appreciated thanks alot!!
KEEP IT COMMING!!!
BY THE WAY, HAS ANYONE DONE ANY OF THIS IN AN E16s???
OR AM I GOING TO BE A PIONEER/GUINEA PIG?? HAHAHA
Last edited by mattster79 : Jun 14th, 2003 at 07:42 PM.
Re: Re: Re: E16s Forced Induction? Is it Possible?
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Originally posted by mattster79 I am assuming this would be a simple DRY NOS kit as well right?
***** No, it would have the same gas and N20 solenoids that all carbureted Powershot kits have. No carb mods necessary. Colder plugs would be good, as well as a slight timing retard.
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Originally posted by mattster79 I actually think I may do this one... now I am off to EBAY to find a good fogger kit!!
***** A fogger system would be even easier. Just drill and tap a hole in the base of your stock intake and tune the system with the replaceable jets. I actuall did this with my '77 B210. Check this out:
This thing ran 14.07 @ 96.9 mph. Not bad from a 1.4 liter engine huh?
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Originally posted by mattster79 BY THE WAY, HAS ANYONE DONE ANY OF THIS IN AN E16s???
i would go lower than 50 shot ... maybe 35 should be well suited, unless you get the block oringed, i wouldnt attemp going overthat... a shop near me got me a quote on doing the oringing : 150$can... monday im off to there shop with my block
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Sentra Sport Coupe 87 Turbo
14.850@97.454mph
H&R Spring, 15psi, TMIC, 370cc, Nismo mount and pulley, Almasi tuned ecu...
Originally posted by Crazy-Mart i would go lower than 50 shot ... maybe 35 should be well suited, unless you get the block oringed,
Yeah that sounds about right... after you get the engine block oringed, I wonder how much power it could handle then.
By the way what exactly does that do to your block?
Oh and How are you going to adjust the NOS nozzel to abour 35HP?? I have only seen as low as 50? I am new to the NOS angle.
there is nozzle for 25, 35 ... you just have to find them !! most company will have those ... oringing my block will keep the engine from blowing head gasket to over 200hp on the E16... wich as been saw with old school racing appz in California in the mid 80s ...
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Sentra Sport Coupe 87 Turbo
14.850@97.454mph
H&R Spring, 15psi, TMIC, 370cc, Nismo mount and pulley, Almasi tuned ecu...
Ok great then. I have my work cut out for me then... that is great!!
I may even look into having my block oringed so I can shoot 75hp!!
I cant wait to spank some of those stinkin RICER HONDAS!!!!
SO I am thinking (BRAIN STORMING) If I strengthen my engine block in all the right places... I could slap on a TURBO FROM AN E15T with about 5psi and strap on about a 50 shot of NOS!!!
That will either make for a great fireworks display or a spankin machine!!!
Originally posted by Crazy-Mart but you wont be able to run high boost on this engine because of the 9.4:1 compression ratio : it wont be 10000miles if you go above 4 lbs !! without changing the jet in he carb.... Have fun !!
AHHH HA!! ANOTHER QUESTION!!
If i set up a blow through carb set up, you said I cant go above 4lbs without changing the jet in the carb, But I am going to buy a holley 350 CFM 2bbl Carb wich is going to make a big difference..
Now how will that make a diffence with the jetting and the turbo set up with the blow through design??
im no carb expert here but i would think jetting the bigger carb will enable you to get a nice idle, while remaining the injection capabilities you want for that extra air that engine will be breathing... it sure isnt a plug and play affaire, youll be doing alot of trials and error, BlownB310 surely can explain more on jetting a carb....
I would still suggest to rather buy a book on the subject on do extensive search on the net before even buying another carb...
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Crazy !
Sentra Sport Coupe 87 Turbo
14.850@97.454mph
H&R Spring, 15psi, TMIC, 370cc, Nismo mount and pulley, Almasi tuned ecu...
About that supercharger set up you have. Really how hard is it to fab and set up? I am investigating that right now.
About the fuel injection swap It seems to me that upgrading to a fuel injected kit is just to much hassel for the returns... from what I have read it is just to restrictive and it does not let for good hp upgrades..
But I am intrigued about the supercharger now that I have really thought about it, it may be easier to set it up then a blow through turbo set up?
E16s Forced Induction? Is it Possible?
]. What I did was get a 1/2" thick piece of aluminum, and made my own plate. I traced the carb base gasket and cut out a piece of aluminum plate to match. I then measured the size of the brass tubing in the NOS plate and went down to my local hobby shop and bought a length of the same size. I copied the size of the little holes in the "spraybars" [the tubing] and drilled them the same on my tubing. Then I drilled the plate out and installed the tubes. I epoxied the ends to seal them. Then you simply hook up the rest of the inexspensive Powershot kit and [as Martin would say] Viola! You have a B12 nitrous kit. In your case, I would reduce the number of spraybar orifices in half, as you're only feeding a 4 cyl. engine, when the kit was made for 8.
What every E16 needs!
How about a blower for your E16? I almost finished this project a few years ago, but then ran into a snag. What you see here is a KF Industries 70 c.i. two-lobe roots blower unit. This unit is sold as a universal piece of speed equiptment, that requires you to fabricate all of the necessary parts to install it yourself. 
Next, I had my Dad machine a steel spacer to graft the timing gear to the flange of the pulley. 
Then I could install the three tapered allen screws to attach the cam gear to the spacer. An extra length crank damper bolt clamps it all together. 
I used 3/16" aluminum plate, and machined out the ports openings and drilled the mounting holes. Next I sawed off the flange from a stock E16 intake to mate to the intake plenum. I cut out some gussets for rgidity as well. I test fitted it to an E16 that was sitting in an '87 sport coupe I had. Clearance to the fireall was extremely close. The heater hoses would have to be re-routed. In any case, when I had everything the way I liked it, I took the manifold to my heliarc man. He looked it over and said that the thickness of the aluminum plate I used was insufficient. He told me it would have warped from the heat of the welding. I realized he was right. I should have made it out of a least 1/4" thick stock or more. At that point I ran out of steam on the project. But all is not lost. I have new plans to start over and install this blower on my '84 CA20 engine. Stay tuned.....
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